1
00:00:04,670 --> 00:00:02,629
what's up guys welcome back to the

2
00:00:06,889 --> 00:00:04,680
channel thank you so much for being here

3
00:00:09,410 --> 00:00:06,899
live I really do appreciate everyone

4
00:00:10,730 --> 00:00:09,420
being here quick uh before we bring up

5
00:00:12,290 --> 00:00:10,740
bring on my guests just to let you know

6
00:00:14,870 --> 00:00:12,300
as always if you have any questions

7
00:00:16,730 --> 00:00:14,880
throughout the interview just pop them

8
00:00:19,070 --> 00:00:16,740
in capital letters because obviously I

9
00:00:21,950 --> 00:00:19,080
get I'm more likely to see them uh keep

10
00:00:25,550 --> 00:00:21,960
the chat nice and cordial please uh you

11
00:00:29,150 --> 00:00:25,560
always do so uh again I appreciate that

12
00:00:30,589 --> 00:00:29,160
uh yeah let's get into it so uh yeah

13
00:00:32,630 --> 00:00:30,599
I've been looking forward to speaking to

14
00:00:33,950 --> 00:00:32,640
my guest today for some time uh We've

15
00:00:35,150 --> 00:00:33,960
interacted many times on Twitter but

16
00:00:36,650 --> 00:00:35,160
this is the first time that we've

17
00:00:38,510 --> 00:00:36,660
actually spoken so I'm really looking

18
00:00:41,389 --> 00:00:38,520
forward to this conversation so without

19
00:00:43,729 --> 00:00:41,399
further Ado please welcome Joe magia Joe

20
00:00:44,690 --> 00:00:43,739
how are you good I'm great thanks for

21
00:00:47,389 --> 00:00:44,700
having me

22
00:00:48,709 --> 00:00:47,399
um glad to be here thank you so much for

23
00:00:50,810 --> 00:00:48,719
doing this man like I said we've not

24
00:00:52,910 --> 00:00:50,820
spoken face to face before but we have

25
00:00:54,229 --> 00:00:52,920
interacted a lot on Twitter and then you

26
00:00:56,389 --> 00:00:54,239
know everything that you post on Twitter

27
00:00:58,369 --> 00:00:56,399
it covers the whole Gambit when it comes

28
00:01:00,049 --> 00:00:58,379
to the phenomena which I find really

29
00:01:02,209 --> 00:01:00,059
impressive because it's not easy to

30
00:01:04,369 --> 00:01:02,219
cover sort of all those those aspects of

31
00:01:05,810 --> 00:01:04,379
it so so kudos to you

32
00:01:08,030 --> 00:01:05,820
um thank you before we get into sort of

33
00:01:09,109 --> 00:01:08,040
the meeting and potatoes of what we're

34
00:01:11,090 --> 00:01:09,119
going to talk about if you could just

35
00:01:13,190 --> 00:01:11,100
give us a background about how you first

36
00:01:14,929 --> 00:01:13,200
got started in the subject because

37
00:01:17,030 --> 00:01:14,939
um that would just be great to sort of

38
00:01:19,850 --> 00:01:17,040
lay it out there if you don't mind

39
00:01:21,830 --> 00:01:19,860
when I was younger I watched a show

40
00:01:23,810 --> 00:01:21,840
called in search of which was Leonard

41
00:01:26,330 --> 00:01:23,820
Nimoy and it covered all of these topics

42
00:01:28,310 --> 00:01:26,340
and I loved it and I remember also going

43
00:01:30,830 --> 00:01:28,320
to the movies to see a Bigfoot movie it

44
00:01:34,789 --> 00:01:30,840
was called Legend of Boggy Creek I think

45
00:01:36,050 --> 00:01:34,799
it was like 75 73 something like that I

46
00:01:38,330 --> 00:01:36,060
was really young and I went with my

47
00:01:40,789 --> 00:01:38,340
sisters who don't even remember had an

48
00:01:42,890 --> 00:01:40,799
impact on me it was a docu drama so it

49
00:01:45,530 --> 00:01:42,900
was it was written and scripted but they

50
00:01:46,490 --> 00:01:45,540
treated it like a documentary so but it

51
00:01:49,490 --> 00:01:46,500
wasn't

52
00:01:51,050 --> 00:01:49,500
um and then in 77 I saw Close Encounters

53
00:01:53,929 --> 00:01:51,060
of the Third Kind in the movie theater

54
00:01:56,929 --> 00:01:53,939
and I loved it

55
00:02:00,230 --> 00:01:56,939
um I think I saw it by myself too I was

56
00:02:01,789 --> 00:02:00,240
12 years old had I had the T-shirt I had

57
00:02:03,170 --> 00:02:01,799
a great picture of me playing drums with

58
00:02:05,870 --> 00:02:03,180
the Close Encounters of the Third Kind

59
00:02:08,089 --> 00:02:05,880
t-shirt on which I cannot find right now

60
00:02:09,770 --> 00:02:08,099
um and then so but I didn't at the time

61
00:02:11,510 --> 00:02:09,780
I didn't realize you can study you

62
00:02:14,270 --> 00:02:11,520
followed you I'm 12 years old I'm like

63
00:02:17,330 --> 00:02:14,280
so I just went about my life and I

64
00:02:18,890 --> 00:02:17,340
didn't really get interested again until

65
00:02:21,890 --> 00:02:18,900
probably

66
00:02:24,410 --> 00:02:21,900
in the late 80s maybe starting into some

67
00:02:27,229 --> 00:02:24,420
occult stuff and astral out of out of

68
00:02:30,190 --> 00:02:27,239
body stuff out of body projections books

69
00:02:33,530 --> 00:02:30,200
and then 96

70
00:02:35,390 --> 00:02:33,540
my first ex-wife I have two I was

71
00:02:37,490 --> 00:02:35,400
pursuing her and she mentioned the book

72
00:02:39,350 --> 00:02:37,500
she goes my aunt had this experience

73
00:02:40,610 --> 00:02:39,360
with this being

74
00:02:42,350 --> 00:02:40,620
um I'm like what are you talking about

75
00:02:43,790 --> 00:02:42,360
she's like yeah he wrote about it it's a

76
00:02:45,770 --> 00:02:43,800
book called communion by Whitley

77
00:02:47,089 --> 00:02:45,780
strieber I'm like all right so in my

78
00:02:48,350 --> 00:02:47,099
head I'm like I'm gonna buy that book

79
00:02:49,970 --> 00:02:48,360
I'm gonna read it and now I have

80
00:02:51,770 --> 00:02:49,980
something in common with her that I can

81
00:02:53,690 --> 00:02:51,780
talk to her about so I had ulterior

82
00:02:55,790 --> 00:02:53,700
motives but I also had an interest

83
00:02:59,150 --> 00:02:55,800
so I started reading communion this was

84
00:03:00,589 --> 00:02:59,160
96 and I'm like this is really scary I

85
00:03:02,330 --> 00:03:00,599
don't really want to read this I had no

86
00:03:05,449 --> 00:03:02,340
idea what it was about and I put it down

87
00:03:06,770 --> 00:03:05,459
that night I woke up on my couch I fell

88
00:03:09,170 --> 00:03:06,780
asleep on the couch and I couldn't move

89
00:03:11,390 --> 00:03:09,180
I was paralyzed some people will say

90
00:03:13,250 --> 00:03:11,400
it's sleep paralysis I thought the

91
00:03:16,670 --> 00:03:13,260
aliens had Frozen me and were coming to

92
00:03:18,350 --> 00:03:16,680
get me I was so scared I worked my way

93
00:03:19,610 --> 00:03:18,360
out of it I struggled and the next day

94
00:03:21,229 --> 00:03:19,620
I'm like you know what I'm going to take

95
00:03:24,050 --> 00:03:21,239
that as a sign that I need to finish

96
00:03:26,869 --> 00:03:24,060
communion and I did and I loved it and I

97
00:03:28,970 --> 00:03:26,879
read transformation and breakthrough and

98
00:03:30,770 --> 00:03:28,980
I just went down a rabbit hole all of

99
00:03:33,050 --> 00:03:30,780
these different books related to UFOs

100
00:03:35,270 --> 00:03:33,060
and metaphysics

101
00:03:36,530 --> 00:03:35,280
channeling books everything and I just

102
00:03:38,089 --> 00:03:36,540
read everything and I believed

103
00:03:39,530 --> 00:03:38,099
everything I had no filter I had no

104
00:03:42,350 --> 00:03:39,540
discernment

105
00:03:43,910 --> 00:03:42,360
um so that's basically how I got started

106
00:03:45,589 --> 00:03:43,920
that's awesome yeah you mentioned

107
00:03:48,289 --> 00:03:45,599
Richard I was lucky enough to meet him

108
00:03:50,210 --> 00:03:48,299
at the weekend and see him talk for the

109
00:03:51,949 --> 00:03:50,220
first time but he and he talks about you

110
00:03:53,570 --> 00:03:51,959
know what happened to him but there was

111
00:03:55,550 --> 00:03:53,580
something about hearing it directly from

112
00:03:57,229 --> 00:03:55,560
him that really hits home about it you

113
00:03:59,509 --> 00:03:57,239
know because obviously I've read the

114
00:04:01,550 --> 00:03:59,519
book seen a movie read everything over

115
00:04:04,850 --> 00:04:01,560
the years but yeah it was really really

116
00:04:07,130 --> 00:04:04,860
uh really moving actually in a way so

117
00:04:08,449 --> 00:04:07,140
yeah yeah that's really there are people

118
00:04:09,830 --> 00:04:08,459
who are very there are people who are

119
00:04:11,690 --> 00:04:09,840
skeptical of his story and I'm like

120
00:04:14,330 --> 00:04:11,700
there are people there are people that

121
00:04:16,310 --> 00:04:14,340
spend time at his cabin who had their

122
00:04:18,050 --> 00:04:16,320
own experiences they've gone on the

123
00:04:20,509 --> 00:04:18,060
record not all of them so it's like it's

124
00:04:22,189 --> 00:04:20,519
not just him so there is really

125
00:04:24,230 --> 00:04:22,199
something going on and he's open about

126
00:04:26,270 --> 00:04:24,240
saying I don't know if it's positive or

127
00:04:27,830 --> 00:04:26,280
not uh he's gone back and forth over the

128
00:04:29,270 --> 00:04:27,840
years he tries to call them the visitors

129
00:04:30,590 --> 00:04:29,280
because he does not know what they are

130
00:04:33,890 --> 00:04:30,600
which I think is the right way to go

131
00:04:36,170 --> 00:04:33,900
yeah absolutely absolutely

132
00:04:38,210 --> 00:04:36,180
um now let's jump into kind of what what

133
00:04:40,129 --> 00:04:38,220
we're going to get into and I wanted to

134
00:04:42,050 --> 00:04:40,139
start because I mentioned before we came

135
00:04:44,030 --> 00:04:42,060
came on air that I'd not really covered

136
00:04:45,290 --> 00:04:44,040
the Wilson Davis note at all on this

137
00:04:46,430 --> 00:04:45,300
channel

138
00:04:48,469 --> 00:04:46,440
um I kind of was waiting for the right

139
00:04:50,270 --> 00:04:48,479
moment so obviously when we we agreed to

140
00:04:53,150 --> 00:04:50,280
do this that I thought well I've got to

141
00:04:54,650 --> 00:04:53,160
ask Joe about it so if you don't mind

142
00:04:56,990 --> 00:04:54,660
just laying out the kind of basic

143
00:04:59,030 --> 00:04:57,000
outline of what happened you know the me

144
00:05:01,550 --> 00:04:59,040
the alleged meeting let's say and then

145
00:05:03,350 --> 00:05:01,560
you can get into kind of yeah the

146
00:05:06,770 --> 00:05:03,360
nuances from your from your angle if

147
00:05:08,810 --> 00:05:06,780
that's okay okay April 97 I'm listening

148
00:05:11,570 --> 00:05:08,820
to Art Bell staying up till 6 a.m in the

149
00:05:13,370 --> 00:05:11,580
morning every night not sleeping and

150
00:05:16,969 --> 00:05:13,380
then Stephen Greer is on saying oh yeah

151
00:05:19,129 --> 00:05:16,979
I briefed a Joint Chiefs fella at the

152
00:05:22,129 --> 00:05:19,139
Pentagon and I'm like really Steven

153
00:05:24,409 --> 00:05:22,139
Greer briefed a Joint Chiefs fella a

154
00:05:27,290 --> 00:05:24,419
Joint Chiefs guy and I'm like that's

155
00:05:28,670 --> 00:05:27,300
really huge and if it happened and Greer

156
00:05:30,890 --> 00:05:28,680
I don't think he was as controversial

157
00:05:32,930 --> 00:05:30,900
back then so

158
00:05:34,310 --> 00:05:32,940
I kept that in the back of my mind and

159
00:05:36,950 --> 00:05:34,320
then

160
00:05:39,350 --> 00:05:36,960
over the years one of the people who was

161
00:05:42,830 --> 00:05:39,360
there with him was Will Miller so he was

162
00:05:44,629 --> 00:05:42,840
his the sea City military advisor he was

163
00:05:48,230 --> 00:05:44,639
there with Edgar Mitchell and two other

164
00:05:50,510 --> 00:05:48,240
people and and so that was 97 that

165
00:05:54,350 --> 00:05:50,520
briefing happened Admiral Wilson we

166
00:05:56,090 --> 00:05:54,360
later found out and 2007 I had met will

167
00:05:57,890 --> 00:05:56,100
Miller because he did an interview in

168
00:06:00,469 --> 00:05:57,900
Tampa he lived in Florida in the Tampa

169
00:06:02,689 --> 00:06:00,479
area I met him I went to his house in

170
00:06:05,510 --> 00:06:02,699
2007 with the goal of talking to him

171
00:06:07,850 --> 00:06:05,520
about the Joint Chiefs of Staff fella I

172
00:06:10,249 --> 00:06:07,860
wanted him to say oh Steven's just

173
00:06:12,890 --> 00:06:10,259
making that up I just wanted some sort

174
00:06:14,990 --> 00:06:12,900
of feedback or oh yeah it happened but I

175
00:06:16,550 --> 00:06:15,000
had a friend with me who wasn't into UFO

176
00:06:18,170 --> 00:06:16,560
so I did not bring it up and I always

177
00:06:20,930 --> 00:06:18,180
regretted that

178
00:06:23,990 --> 00:06:20,940
um great guy will Miller great guy

179
00:06:25,790 --> 00:06:24,000
um so fast forward 2019 Giuliano

180
00:06:27,469 --> 00:06:25,800
marankovic and me and a couple of other

181
00:06:29,450 --> 00:06:27,479
people were in a Facebook group he goes

182
00:06:31,610 --> 00:06:29,460
guys this is a blockbuster check this

183
00:06:34,249 --> 00:06:31,620
out I'm looking at it and it's like

184
00:06:36,230 --> 00:06:34,259
notes from Eric Davis interviewing

185
00:06:38,330 --> 00:06:36,240
Admiral Wilson I'm looking like oh my

186
00:06:43,370 --> 00:06:38,340
God this is the Joint Chiefs guy that

187
00:06:46,309 --> 00:06:43,380
Greer talked about in 97 and I had

188
00:06:48,710 --> 00:06:46,319
I had become friends with Eric Davis not

189
00:06:50,450 --> 00:06:48,720
too long before that maybe like within

190
00:06:51,950 --> 00:06:50,460
the year I'd become friends with him and

191
00:06:54,050 --> 00:06:51,960
becoming pretty close friends with him

192
00:06:55,670 --> 00:06:54,060
so I wrote to him right away I'm like

193
00:06:58,309 --> 00:06:55,680
what's the deal with this Eric and he's

194
00:07:00,890 --> 00:06:58,319
like no comment and he's not if anybody

195
00:07:03,590 --> 00:07:00,900
knows Eric he never says no comment he

196
00:07:05,270 --> 00:07:03,600
talks forever he writes forever it's the

197
00:07:07,189 --> 00:07:05,280
best private message messages you'll

198
00:07:09,170 --> 00:07:07,199
ever want to get because his memory is

199
00:07:11,390 --> 00:07:09,180
amazing and he knows so many details so

200
00:07:13,730 --> 00:07:11,400
that was what happened and supposedly in

201
00:07:15,650 --> 00:07:13,740
2002 he met with Abra Wilson who wanted

202
00:07:17,629 --> 00:07:15,660
allegedly apparently wanted to get this

203
00:07:20,990 --> 00:07:17,639
off of his chest he talked to Oak

204
00:07:24,290 --> 00:07:21,000
Shannon who was a scientist at

205
00:07:26,870 --> 00:07:24,300
where is it LA Los Alamos yeah um

206
00:07:29,150 --> 00:07:26,880
Shannon knew Eric Davis he knew Admiral

207
00:07:30,830 --> 00:07:29,160
Wilson Wilson said can you vouch for me

208
00:07:32,510 --> 00:07:30,840
can you vouch for Davis is he somebody

209
00:07:35,930 --> 00:07:32,520
worthwhile can I talk to him about what

210
00:07:38,330 --> 00:07:35,940
happened in 97 and in 97 Wilson did

211
00:07:40,249 --> 00:07:38,340
allegedly find this alleged crash

212
00:07:41,930 --> 00:07:40,259
retrieval program he went to where it

213
00:07:43,790 --> 00:07:41,940
was he flew out there and they told him

214
00:07:46,490 --> 00:07:43,800
sorry we'll tell you what the program is

215
00:07:48,710 --> 00:07:46,500
about it's a non-human crash retrieval

216
00:07:50,330 --> 00:07:48,720
program we have an intact craft but

217
00:07:52,309 --> 00:07:50,340
we're not going to give you a tour you

218
00:07:54,589 --> 00:07:52,319
do not you're not on the bigot list I'm

219
00:07:57,350 --> 00:07:54,599
sorry you do not have a need to know so

220
00:07:59,089 --> 00:07:57,360
Wilson was red rejected so then five

221
00:08:01,070 --> 00:07:59,099
years later he's telling Eric Davis all

222
00:08:04,129 --> 00:08:01,080
of the details of what happened when he

223
00:08:05,930 --> 00:08:04,139
was rejected Davis has the notes he

224
00:08:07,730 --> 00:08:05,940
gives copies to at least Edgar Mitchell

225
00:08:09,350 --> 00:08:07,740
and some other folks

226
00:08:11,749 --> 00:08:09,360
um connected to nids I'm not sure if it

227
00:08:13,309 --> 00:08:11,759
was specifically a niche issue and nid's

228
00:08:15,170 --> 00:08:13,319
was started by Robert Bigelow to

229
00:08:17,330 --> 00:08:15,180
investigate paranormal phenomena UFOs

230
00:08:20,570 --> 00:08:17,340
life after death

231
00:08:23,089 --> 00:08:20,580
um so that leaked out in 2019 and then I

232
00:08:24,890 --> 00:08:23,099
wrote a Blog about it and details have

233
00:08:27,110 --> 00:08:24,900
been coming out since then I mean

234
00:08:29,869 --> 00:08:27,120
recently we had Eric Davis in a private

235
00:08:31,490 --> 00:08:29,879
Facebook group say to Peter lavender who

236
00:08:33,589 --> 00:08:31,500
lavender said we have some of the some

237
00:08:36,469 --> 00:08:33,599
of the notes are are not true it's a

238
00:08:38,389 --> 00:08:36,479
mixture of lies lies in truth Eric Davis

239
00:08:40,730 --> 00:08:38,399
jumped in because somebody posted that

240
00:08:43,430 --> 00:08:40,740
on this Facebook group and David said

241
00:08:46,070 --> 00:08:43,440
one should not comment on the validity

242
00:08:48,650 --> 00:08:46,080
of and I'm not I'm paraphrasing the

243
00:08:50,750 --> 00:08:48,660
validity of a document unless one is in

244
00:08:52,850 --> 00:08:50,760
the know in other words if you're not in

245
00:08:55,730 --> 00:08:52,860
the no don't say anything about it and

246
00:08:57,769 --> 00:08:55,740
and Eric knew I was working on a mega

247
00:08:59,509 --> 00:08:57,779
blog I told him I was working all day

248
00:09:02,389 --> 00:08:59,519
and all night on something related to

249
00:09:05,329 --> 00:09:02,399
Wilson Davis not once did he say

250
00:09:07,130 --> 00:09:05,339
wink wink don't waste your time it's a

251
00:09:08,870 --> 00:09:07,140
way he would have told me I'm confident

252
00:09:10,910 --> 00:09:08,880
he would have said something even he

253
00:09:13,190 --> 00:09:10,920
gave me a quote for it about how it

254
00:09:14,329 --> 00:09:13,200
leaked from the Mitchell estate

255
00:09:16,730 --> 00:09:14,339
um and then he talked about how he had

256
00:09:18,470 --> 00:09:16,740
advice for somebody at his job legal

257
00:09:20,090 --> 00:09:18,480
advice to not talk about it because in

258
00:09:21,350 --> 00:09:20,100
the Trump and Obama administration they

259
00:09:22,670 --> 00:09:21,360
were coming down really hard on

260
00:09:24,530 --> 00:09:22,680
whistleblowers

261
00:09:26,690 --> 00:09:24,540
and this was potentially classified

262
00:09:28,610 --> 00:09:26,700
information and he just you know he was

263
00:09:30,769 --> 00:09:28,620
told just not their comments were like

264
00:09:33,550 --> 00:09:30,779
put off made a comment at a lecture

265
00:09:38,030 --> 00:09:36,230
did of Admiral Wilson and it's like oh

266
00:09:39,889 --> 00:09:38,040
he just admitted it but then later on

267
00:09:42,290 --> 00:09:39,899
he's like oh I couldn't hear properly I

268
00:09:45,829 --> 00:09:42,300
misspoke and you know there's there's

269
00:09:50,509 --> 00:09:45,839
been non-denial denials um and then now

270
00:09:53,630 --> 00:09:50,519
we have Congressman Gallagher who era um

271
00:09:55,730 --> 00:09:53,640
Gary Gary Davis Gary Nolan from Stanford

272
00:09:58,370 --> 00:09:55,740
an immunologist said that he had briefed

273
00:09:59,990 --> 00:09:58,380
at uh he had briefed Gallagher on Wilson

274
00:10:02,150 --> 00:10:00,000
Davis and then he entered those

275
00:10:03,650 --> 00:10:02,160
Gallagher entered the Wilson Davis notes

276
00:10:05,570 --> 00:10:03,660
into the public record during the

277
00:10:08,030 --> 00:10:05,580
Congressional hearing on UFOs in May

278
00:10:09,769 --> 00:10:08,040
first time in 50 something years that

279
00:10:11,930 --> 00:10:09,779
we've had UFOs discussed so it's

280
00:10:15,230 --> 00:10:11,940
official now that doesn't mean they're

281
00:10:17,570 --> 00:10:15,240
real but I I'm no I have no doubt that

282
00:10:19,790 --> 00:10:17,580
that meeting took place Eric um Nolan

283
00:10:22,310 --> 00:10:19,800
said that I was in a group with Eric

284
00:10:24,050 --> 00:10:22,320
Davis before I knew I knew about the

285
00:10:25,610 --> 00:10:24,060
Wilson Davis documents before they even

286
00:10:27,650 --> 00:10:25,620
leaked

287
00:10:29,690 --> 00:10:27,660
um and you know it's basically saying

288
00:10:31,670 --> 00:10:29,700
he's basically saying Eric Davis told

289
00:10:33,470 --> 00:10:31,680
him they're real without actually saying

290
00:10:34,670 --> 00:10:33,480
that and burning Eric Davis although I

291
00:10:36,769 --> 00:10:34,680
don't think Davis would get in trouble

292
00:10:38,509 --> 00:10:36,779
at this point

293
00:10:39,949 --> 00:10:38,519
um so yeah I think tell me if I left

294
00:10:41,090 --> 00:10:39,959
anything out I think that's where we

295
00:10:43,310 --> 00:10:41,100
stand there are other people that have

296
00:10:45,530 --> 00:10:43,320
spoken out um

297
00:10:47,150 --> 00:10:45,540
you know over the years and there are

298
00:10:49,190 --> 00:10:47,160
people who stink still think it's fake

299
00:10:50,690 --> 00:10:49,200
yeah I think we'll always have that but

300
00:10:52,310 --> 00:10:50,700
we've got Melinda Leslie in here hello

301
00:10:54,170 --> 00:10:52,320
Melinda she says Joe will you be

302
00:10:56,210 --> 00:10:54,180
bringing up the Shannon Hulk documents

303
00:10:58,430 --> 00:10:56,220
and how they support Wilson Davis so

304
00:10:59,990 --> 00:10:58,440
yeah by all means they came out you know

305
00:11:01,130 --> 00:11:00,000
in the last few weeks

306
00:11:02,389 --> 00:11:01,140
um so yeah what did you think about

307
00:11:05,690 --> 00:11:02,399
those two

308
00:11:08,389 --> 00:11:05,700
I will admit I read I read the shadow

309
00:11:09,829 --> 00:11:08,399
notes I have not Melinda I am so behind

310
00:11:12,650 --> 00:11:09,839
on stuff I haven't read the hawk notes

311
00:11:14,569 --> 00:11:12,660
yet so I need to read that um I don't

312
00:11:17,750 --> 00:11:14,579
know in the Shannon notes I didn't see

313
00:11:19,430 --> 00:11:17,760
anything that confirmed Wilson Davis Jay

314
00:11:21,110 --> 00:11:19,440
from Project Unity interviewed Oak

315
00:11:23,930 --> 00:11:21,120
Shannon and a big part of that interview

316
00:11:26,210 --> 00:11:23,940
is Oak Shannon said

317
00:11:28,430 --> 00:11:26,220
um yeah Admiral Wilson called me and

318
00:11:30,350 --> 00:11:28,440
wanted me to you know vouch for Eric

319
00:11:32,210 --> 00:11:30,360
Davis and

320
00:11:33,829 --> 00:11:32,220
Oak Shannon also said he was dealing

321
00:11:36,470 --> 00:11:33,839
with a heart attack post heart attack

322
00:11:38,810 --> 00:11:36,480
symptoms at the time that's in the notes

323
00:11:40,310 --> 00:11:38,820
so that confirms that part of it he

324
00:11:42,949 --> 00:11:40,320
cannot confirm whether or not they

325
00:11:45,650 --> 00:11:42,959
actually met but I will tell you Vinnie

326
00:11:48,110 --> 00:11:45,660
I have really good sources on this they

327
00:11:50,329 --> 00:11:48,120
met he interviewed Admiral Wilson that's

328
00:11:53,030 --> 00:11:50,339
not that's not in question for me most

329
00:11:55,430 --> 00:11:53,040
people either but did Admiral Wilson

330
00:11:57,590 --> 00:11:55,440
really was he really told that there's

331
00:11:59,630 --> 00:11:57,600
an intact craft by this program manager

332
00:12:01,490 --> 00:11:59,640
in this crash retrieval and reverse

333
00:12:03,949 --> 00:12:01,500
engineering program and if he was told

334
00:12:05,569 --> 00:12:03,959
that is that the truth well now we have

335
00:12:06,530 --> 00:12:05,579
whistleblowers ready to come forward is

336
00:12:08,449 --> 00:12:06,540
that what they're going to talk about

337
00:12:11,150 --> 00:12:08,459
that's really what the focus is Wilson

338
00:12:12,710 --> 00:12:11,160
Davis is kind of a a secondary issue

339
00:12:14,630 --> 00:12:12,720
right now if we have whistleblowers who

340
00:12:16,670 --> 00:12:14,640
work in that program that's who we care

341
00:12:20,030 --> 00:12:16,680
about I don't think we're going to hear

342
00:12:22,009 --> 00:12:20,040
from those people and one reason is I've

343
00:12:24,290 --> 00:12:22,019
tweeted it out today we still don't know

344
00:12:26,150 --> 00:12:24,300
about JFK and his assassination

345
00:12:28,610 --> 00:12:26,160
those documents were supposed to be

346
00:12:30,170 --> 00:12:28,620
released so many times and whoever's in

347
00:12:32,150 --> 00:12:30,180
charge of releasing them is not

348
00:12:34,490 --> 00:12:32,160
releasing them for some reason and

349
00:12:35,930 --> 00:12:34,500
Congress has demanded it they're not

350
00:12:37,850 --> 00:12:35,940
releasing them Congress can say whatever

351
00:12:39,710 --> 00:12:37,860
they want so what's going to happen now

352
00:12:41,329 --> 00:12:39,720
with Congress you know I think Congress

353
00:12:43,250 --> 00:12:41,339
can speak to whistleblowers but I can't

354
00:12:45,230 --> 00:12:43,260
I don't think Congress can demand

355
00:12:47,810 --> 00:12:45,240
anybody to release their craft if they

356
00:12:49,430 --> 00:12:47,820
have one or really Smoking Gun documents

357
00:12:51,650 --> 00:12:49,440
or videos so I think we're going to come

358
00:12:52,850 --> 00:12:51,660
to an impasse I don't know how Congress

359
00:12:54,350 --> 00:12:52,860
is going to get around that they may

360
00:12:56,629 --> 00:12:54,360
have to go to the Supreme Court but in

361
00:12:58,550 --> 00:12:56,639
the past the Supreme the higher courts

362
00:13:00,769 --> 00:12:58,560
have ruled in favor of national security

363
00:13:02,210 --> 00:13:00,779
so we might be screwed and I don't want

364
00:13:03,710 --> 00:13:02,220
to be negative I mean I'm happy with

365
00:13:05,389 --> 00:13:03,720
everything that's going on obviously

366
00:13:07,730 --> 00:13:05,399
especially if whistleblowers are going

367
00:13:10,670 --> 00:13:07,740
to speak to Congress and to the new UFO

368
00:13:12,410 --> 00:13:10,680
office behind the scenes but for us to

369
00:13:13,370 --> 00:13:12,420
have impact on the world it has to be

370
00:13:15,470 --> 00:13:13,380
public

371
00:13:17,810 --> 00:13:15,480
and I don't think people speaking

372
00:13:19,670 --> 00:13:17,820
somebody's saying I worked in the craft

373
00:13:21,410 --> 00:13:19,680
retrieval program and I worked on an

374
00:13:23,389 --> 00:13:21,420
intact craft I don't think that's enough

375
00:13:25,129 --> 00:13:23,399
for most people who are not interested

376
00:13:27,710 --> 00:13:25,139
in this subject I think they need to see

377
00:13:30,590 --> 00:13:27,720
it at least pictures and video and then

378
00:13:32,870 --> 00:13:30,600
maybe and I always joke on the whole you

379
00:13:35,030 --> 00:13:32,880
know down the hallway down the aisle of

380
00:13:37,790 --> 00:13:35,040
Congress they need to roll the in tax

381
00:13:39,470 --> 00:13:37,800
craft in with the bodies right there

382
00:13:40,910 --> 00:13:39,480
like here you go for a lot of people

383
00:13:42,050 --> 00:13:40,920
that's what they're going to need and

384
00:13:44,150 --> 00:13:42,060
then we're going to blow their minds and

385
00:13:45,110 --> 00:13:44,160
say by the way these there's a really

386
00:13:46,250 --> 00:13:45,120
good chance these are not

387
00:13:48,230 --> 00:13:46,260
extraterrestrial they're

388
00:13:50,569 --> 00:13:48,240
interdimensional that was created by an

389
00:13:52,730 --> 00:13:50,579
incredible intelligence that can Super

390
00:13:53,930 --> 00:13:52,740
3D print bodies and crafts so yeah

391
00:13:56,690 --> 00:13:53,940
that's where we are have a great day

392
00:13:59,389 --> 00:13:56,700
everybody and we can't stop them also so

393
00:14:01,190 --> 00:13:59,399
uh Jonathan Davis says I'm told that the

394
00:14:03,410 --> 00:14:01,200
dock is not needed The Whistleblower is

395
00:14:05,449 --> 00:14:03,420
coming forward will be just as big so

396
00:14:07,129 --> 00:14:05,459
maybe I've heard I've heard similar

397
00:14:08,150 --> 00:14:07,139
things as well behind the scenes you

398
00:14:10,190 --> 00:14:08,160
know but

399
00:14:11,930 --> 00:14:10,200
we just don't know do we until it

400
00:14:14,569 --> 00:14:11,940
actually uh you know manifests and

401
00:14:16,310 --> 00:14:14,579
happens so yeah for the members of

402
00:14:18,410 --> 00:14:16,320
Congress and for the members of Arrow

403
00:14:20,090 --> 00:14:18,420
the the office the UFO office who cares

404
00:14:21,829 --> 00:14:20,100
about Wilson Davis at that point I mean

405
00:14:23,329 --> 00:14:21,839
you want the whistleblowers although I

406
00:14:25,190 --> 00:14:23,339
would love

407
00:14:27,889 --> 00:14:25,200
for Admiral Wilson be the first one up

408
00:14:29,990 --> 00:14:27,899
there saying I was turned down from a

409
00:14:32,269 --> 00:14:30,000
program that I felt I should have had

410
00:14:34,190 --> 00:14:32,279
oversight on there's no reason for

411
00:14:35,750 --> 00:14:34,200
somebody who's a direct Vice director of

412
00:14:37,610 --> 00:14:35,760
intelligence for the United States of

413
00:14:39,710 --> 00:14:37,620
America to not know about that program

414
00:14:42,530 --> 00:14:39,720
and not be read in that would be my

415
00:14:43,970 --> 00:14:42,540
first start Eric Davis being there you

416
00:14:45,230 --> 00:14:43,980
know I'm not sure if that's important

417
00:14:46,550 --> 00:14:45,240
because he interviewed Admiral Wilson

418
00:14:48,110 --> 00:14:46,560
But Eric Davis may have other

419
00:14:49,730 --> 00:14:48,120
information I would love to see him

420
00:14:50,870 --> 00:14:49,740
speak and then the whistleblowers if

421
00:14:53,090 --> 00:14:50,880
they've worked in that program that's

422
00:14:54,650 --> 00:14:53,100
that's huge the document at that point

423
00:14:55,910 --> 00:14:54,660
like all right it's a document where we

424
00:14:58,430 --> 00:14:55,920
have the people right in front of us

425
00:15:00,170 --> 00:14:58,440
yeah that's a fair point Melinda's just

426
00:15:02,090 --> 00:15:00,180
raised this as well which is asking

427
00:15:03,949 --> 00:15:02,100
about the AP 10 reference in the Shannon

428
00:15:06,290 --> 00:15:03,959
notes and the security clearance film

429
00:15:08,629 --> 00:15:06,300
from Los Alamos asking for this gift at

430
00:15:10,250 --> 00:15:08,639
BDM both back up Wilson's comments

431
00:15:13,009 --> 00:15:10,260
regarding them yeah and that's John

432
00:15:15,889 --> 00:15:13,019
Alexander um that was an important early

433
00:15:17,930 --> 00:15:15,899
group and BDM is a defense contractor

434
00:15:21,050 --> 00:15:17,940
where they met in their vault for their

435
00:15:23,030 --> 00:15:21,060
meetings so yeah for me it's like

436
00:15:24,949 --> 00:15:23,040
it's I don't want to use the word boring

437
00:15:26,150 --> 00:15:24,959
it's not boring but for me it's like I'm

438
00:15:28,790 --> 00:15:26,160
so beyond

439
00:15:30,050 --> 00:15:28,800
proving that it happened it's like for

440
00:15:31,730 --> 00:15:30,060
me I don't even want to debate it with

441
00:15:33,050 --> 00:15:31,740
people anymore I'm not saying Melinda's

442
00:15:34,970 --> 00:15:33,060
debating it Melinda's providing

443
00:15:36,949 --> 00:15:34,980
information to back it up for people who

444
00:15:38,030 --> 00:15:36,959
are skeptical which is important but

445
00:15:41,090 --> 00:15:38,040
there are people who still have

446
00:15:44,090 --> 00:15:41,100
mentioned it being a movie script or

447
00:15:47,329 --> 00:15:44,100
um disinformation it's maybe the whole

448
00:15:49,790 --> 00:15:47,339
intact crap stories and disinformation I

449
00:15:51,889 --> 00:15:49,800
don't think so but the whole meeting is

450
00:15:53,689 --> 00:15:51,899
a done deal it happens I'm trying to

451
00:15:55,310 --> 00:15:53,699
think of the other Theory oh yeah I

452
00:15:57,829 --> 00:15:55,320
won't mention the name I have in the

453
00:16:00,710 --> 00:15:57,839
past saying that Admiral Wilson it was

454
00:16:02,870 --> 00:16:00,720
an imposter Eric Davis was fooled by an

455
00:16:05,210 --> 00:16:02,880
Admiral Wilson imposter I'm like are you

456
00:16:07,550 --> 00:16:05,220
kidding me you think Eric Davis who's Mr

457
00:16:11,030 --> 00:16:07,560
meticulous was fooled by an Admiral

458
00:16:12,650 --> 00:16:11,040
Wilson imposter and um Paul Paul I

459
00:16:15,050 --> 00:16:12,660
forget Paul's last name he's in the UK

460
00:16:17,030 --> 00:16:15,060
he made a picture of the fake Admiral

461
00:16:19,189 --> 00:16:17,040
Wilson Paul Reddington is it Paul

462
00:16:21,050 --> 00:16:19,199
Reddington and it's like it's so great I

463
00:16:23,150 --> 00:16:21,060
said yep he was fooled by the fake and

464
00:16:24,470 --> 00:16:23,160
Pastor he's like he just couldn't tell

465
00:16:27,470 --> 00:16:24,480
what Admiral Wilson looked like it might

466
00:16:29,210 --> 00:16:27,480
give me a break that to me I was like

467
00:16:31,009 --> 00:16:29,220
whoever's saying that

468
00:16:33,769 --> 00:16:31,019
I think they have ulterior motives but

469
00:16:37,189 --> 00:16:33,779
just an opinion hey that's fair enough

470
00:16:39,230 --> 00:16:37,199
we've all got them absolutely uh good to

471
00:16:41,509 --> 00:16:39,240
see red panda koala here shout out to

472
00:16:43,610 --> 00:16:41,519
that was an awesome episode with Jesse

473
00:16:45,410 --> 00:16:43,620
on American Alchemy uh he's got a

474
00:16:48,050 --> 00:16:45,420
question for you says Joe what do your

475
00:16:49,730 --> 00:16:48,060
insiders say about occult info I think

476
00:16:52,249 --> 00:16:49,740
that's influence history and

477
00:16:55,550 --> 00:16:52,259
significance in the UFO topic

478
00:16:57,889 --> 00:16:55,560
back in I think it was 96 I went I took

479
00:16:59,569 --> 00:16:57,899
my my first wife her mom and her aunt

480
00:17:01,610 --> 00:16:59,579
across the state in Florida to see

481
00:17:04,250 --> 00:17:01,620
Richard Hogan speak it was a free

482
00:17:06,230 --> 00:17:04,260
lecture at Brevard Community College

483
00:17:08,929 --> 00:17:06,240
right in the shadows of Cape Canaveral

484
00:17:11,210 --> 00:17:08,939
for our Cape Canaveral Florida where we

485
00:17:14,270 --> 00:17:11,220
launch uh rockets in the space shuttle

486
00:17:16,429 --> 00:17:14,280
and um he talked about the NASA occult

487
00:17:18,949 --> 00:17:16,439
connection for five hours it was a free

488
00:17:20,390 --> 00:17:18,959
lecture I was wide awake even though I

489
00:17:24,590 --> 00:17:20,400
drove there and I had to drive back that

490
00:17:27,049 --> 00:17:24,600
night uh my my ex my mother-in-law and

491
00:17:28,850 --> 00:17:27,059
my her aunt they were all asleep by like

492
00:17:30,169 --> 00:17:28,860
three hours in and I was like this is

493
00:17:32,630 --> 00:17:30,179
amazing

494
00:17:34,789 --> 00:17:32,640
he's connecting all of this stuff to the

495
00:17:37,190 --> 00:17:34,799
occult to Nazis to Hitler they were

496
00:17:39,789 --> 00:17:37,200
launching rockets at certain dates and

497
00:17:42,230 --> 00:17:39,799
angles with certain stars and certain

498
00:17:44,330 --> 00:17:42,240
hyperdimensional physics numbers in 19.5

499
00:17:46,430 --> 00:17:44,340
which Hogan is known for it's like

500
00:17:49,010 --> 00:17:46,440
obviously they were doing that somebody

501
00:17:52,909 --> 00:17:49,020
was telling them when to launch as an

502
00:17:55,549 --> 00:17:52,919
homage to sirius to O2 to Osiris the

503
00:17:56,930 --> 00:17:55,559
belts of Osiris Orion on Hitler's

504
00:17:59,029 --> 00:17:56,940
birthday there's a connection there and

505
00:18:01,310 --> 00:17:59,039
plus we have the paper clips paperclip

506
00:18:04,610 --> 00:18:01,320
scientists who came over after the war

507
00:18:06,830 --> 00:18:04,620
who worked in NASA Werner Von Braun so

508
00:18:08,990 --> 00:18:06,840
there's definitely a cult slash Nazi

509
00:18:11,570 --> 00:18:09,000
influence and it's interesting that in

510
00:18:13,250 --> 00:18:11,580
the Jesse Michael's Liu interview Lou

511
00:18:15,470 --> 00:18:13,260
brings up the occult connection with

512
00:18:17,750 --> 00:18:15,480
NASA and it's such a big connection that

513
00:18:19,070 --> 00:18:17,760
people will find out I hopefully in the

514
00:18:20,810 --> 00:18:19,080
near future

515
00:18:23,150 --> 00:18:20,820
um it's a big part of

516
00:18:24,950 --> 00:18:23,160
somebody wanting and I'm jumping ahead

517
00:18:27,650 --> 00:18:24,960
somebody wanting to communicate with

518
00:18:29,090 --> 00:18:27,660
interdimensional beings allegedly

519
00:18:31,370 --> 00:18:29,100
um that's why I don't think

520
00:18:34,310 --> 00:18:31,380
extraterrestrial is the issue here maybe

521
00:18:36,010 --> 00:18:34,320
ETS are here too but the problem we need

522
00:18:38,450 --> 00:18:36,020
to deal with is related to

523
00:18:42,409 --> 00:18:38,460
interdimensional beings mentioned in the

524
00:18:44,210 --> 00:18:42,419
Bible in the Quran all all holy books

525
00:18:45,529 --> 00:18:44,220
people maybe humans trying to

526
00:18:47,270 --> 00:18:45,539
communicate with them and then maybe

527
00:18:49,490 --> 00:18:47,280
humans

528
00:18:51,470 --> 00:18:49,500
we can get down we can get into the

529
00:18:54,049 --> 00:18:51,480
interdimensional problem the the

530
00:18:55,909 --> 00:18:54,059
basically the one story that's come out

531
00:18:58,130 --> 00:18:55,919
since the early 1900s and it's

532
00:19:00,350 --> 00:18:58,140
controversial is there are certain

533
00:19:02,870 --> 00:19:00,360
beings I think they're parasites I stole

534
00:19:05,210 --> 00:19:02,880
that idea from Paul Eno a researcher

535
00:19:07,010 --> 00:19:05,220
they feed off of negativity from from

536
00:19:08,870 --> 00:19:07,020
human emotion which sounds ridiculous

537
00:19:10,549 --> 00:19:08,880
and I've had people say really they're

538
00:19:12,890 --> 00:19:10,559
feeding off of our emotions how does

539
00:19:14,210 --> 00:19:12,900
that work I don't know I've heard it the

540
00:19:16,190 --> 00:19:14,220
first time I heard it was I went to

541
00:19:19,610 --> 00:19:16,200
these lectures in the mid 90s in Florida

542
00:19:21,529 --> 00:19:19,620
uh like 97 where somebody at that it was

543
00:19:23,510 --> 00:19:21,539
a workshop and I went every week I would

544
00:19:25,010 --> 00:19:23,520
go and this one person said oh yeah

545
00:19:26,630 --> 00:19:25,020
these beings feed off your negative

546
00:19:28,370 --> 00:19:26,640
emotions I'm like what the hell is that

547
00:19:29,990 --> 00:19:28,380
what are you talking about

548
00:19:32,630 --> 00:19:30,000
um and then I did some research recently

549
00:19:33,470 --> 00:19:32,640
and like Rudolph Steiner mentions it

550
00:19:34,789 --> 00:19:33,480
um

551
00:19:37,370 --> 00:19:34,799
I'm trying to think who mentions is

552
00:19:39,409 --> 00:19:37,380
Carlos Castaneda who people say was

553
00:19:41,990 --> 00:19:39,419
writing fiction but he did mention it in

554
00:19:44,990 --> 00:19:42,000
his books Tom Delong mentioned it he

555
00:19:46,669 --> 00:19:45,000
goes love is like a nuclear missile to

556
00:19:48,650 --> 00:19:46,679
the heart of the UFO they feed off

557
00:19:50,930 --> 00:19:48,660
negative emotions

558
00:19:53,390 --> 00:19:50,940
um and then interesting one of the books

559
00:19:54,890 --> 00:19:53,400
that Lou recommends chains of the sea in

560
00:19:56,690 --> 00:19:54,900
which I was told behind the scenes is

561
00:19:59,090 --> 00:19:56,700
even more accurate about our current

562
00:20:01,789 --> 00:19:59,100
situation and our future Than People

563
00:20:03,289 --> 00:20:01,799
realize talks about these beings they

564
00:20:06,230 --> 00:20:03,299
call them I think they call them others

565
00:20:08,330 --> 00:20:06,240
various others that feed off of humans

566
00:20:09,770 --> 00:20:08,340
different beings get different things

567
00:20:10,490 --> 00:20:09,780
from us

568
00:20:12,470 --> 00:20:10,500
um

569
00:20:14,330 --> 00:20:12,480
and then they also feed off of other

570
00:20:15,650 --> 00:20:14,340
animals and I know it's fiction uh but

571
00:20:17,570 --> 00:20:15,660
like I said the person who told me that

572
00:20:19,190 --> 00:20:17,580
said there are a lot of details in that

573
00:20:21,529 --> 00:20:19,200
book that really hit home as far as

574
00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:21,539
accuracy I won't say who that person is

575
00:20:26,870 --> 00:20:23,760
but they're they're a well-known name in

576
00:20:28,430 --> 00:20:26,880
our in our community so if and this is

577
00:20:30,230 --> 00:20:28,440
the theory and we can talk also

578
00:20:32,150 --> 00:20:30,240
controversial David Ike he's talked

579
00:20:34,490 --> 00:20:32,160
about it too if they're if they're

580
00:20:36,289 --> 00:20:34,500
feeding off of negativity is that why

581
00:20:38,390 --> 00:20:36,299
the world is filled with negativity have

582
00:20:40,130 --> 00:20:38,400
there been humans that have done

583
00:20:42,230 --> 00:20:40,140
something to try to communicate with

584
00:20:44,510 --> 00:20:42,240
these beings in exchange they helped

585
00:20:46,850 --> 00:20:44,520
shape the world where it is you talk

586
00:20:49,610 --> 00:20:46,860
about the elite it's massive conspiracy

587
00:20:51,110 --> 00:20:49,620
I know what it sounds like I don't say I

588
00:20:53,630 --> 00:20:51,120
believe it but it's definitely something

589
00:20:55,250 --> 00:20:53,640
I'm in and that's not new to me I I've

590
00:20:57,590 --> 00:20:55,260
been into this for such a long time

591
00:21:00,169 --> 00:20:57,600
since 96 and it came up early back then

592
00:21:01,970 --> 00:21:00,179
and I dismissed it it's so out there and

593
00:21:04,010 --> 00:21:01,980
it's so conspiratory even when I hear it

594
00:21:05,570 --> 00:21:04,020
now Vinnie I'm listening to Ike's new

595
00:21:08,330 --> 00:21:05,580
book and I'm like this is so

596
00:21:10,070 --> 00:21:08,340
conspiratorial I'll reject this for now

597
00:21:13,730 --> 00:21:10,080
and I'll focus on the stuff I agree with

598
00:21:16,310 --> 00:21:13,740
or at least may you know I may share the

599
00:21:17,990 --> 00:21:16,320
same opinion so and I know I'm rambling

600
00:21:19,909 --> 00:21:18,000
now but there's so much going on the

601
00:21:21,770 --> 00:21:19,919
past three weeks or so it's like I've

602
00:21:23,690 --> 00:21:21,780
changed my focus and I know people I've

603
00:21:25,549 --> 00:21:23,700
lost followers because of it because

604
00:21:27,350 --> 00:21:25,559
people think I'm sharing somebody Ike

605
00:21:29,270 --> 00:21:27,360
who's sharing who's spreading hate and

606
00:21:31,549 --> 00:21:29,280
I've never gotten that from him I've

607
00:21:34,370 --> 00:21:31,559
attended his lectures 96 I saw him with

608
00:21:36,470 --> 00:21:34,380
20 people in Florida with my first wife

609
00:21:38,029 --> 00:21:36,480
and we loved it somebody had told me

610
00:21:40,070 --> 00:21:38,039
early in the day hey there's this guy

611
00:21:42,830 --> 00:21:40,080
David Ike he's going to speak about the

612
00:21:44,570 --> 00:21:42,840
New World Order and I'm like what is the

613
00:21:47,149 --> 00:21:44,580
New World Order I have no idea what that

614
00:21:50,690 --> 00:21:47,159
is he goes just go just go so it was 20

615
00:21:52,490 --> 00:21:50,700
bucks or 15 bucks 20 people there and he

616
00:21:54,230 --> 00:21:52,500
spoke and I was like this is really good

617
00:21:56,510 --> 00:21:54,240
stuff and at the very end somebody in

618
00:21:58,430 --> 00:21:56,520
the back the guy goes I'm having these

619
00:22:01,310 --> 00:21:58,440
abduction type experiences but they're

620
00:22:02,210 --> 00:22:01,320
reptilian beans and I I remember he's

621
00:22:04,250 --> 00:22:02,220
like

622
00:22:05,810 --> 00:22:04,260
I'm starting to get those reports I'm

623
00:22:07,730 --> 00:22:05,820
looking into it so that was a very big

624
00:22:09,970 --> 00:22:07,740
the early start for him

625
00:22:13,909 --> 00:22:09,980
um I've seen him lecture for nine hours

626
00:22:15,470 --> 00:22:13,919
amazing uh not bored once so all of that

627
00:22:17,090 --> 00:22:15,480
stuff together

628
00:22:19,490 --> 00:22:17,100
and then we could talk cyclical

629
00:22:21,110 --> 00:22:19,500
cataclysms if we can go off on so many

630
00:22:22,909 --> 00:22:21,120
different tangents many so I'm really

631
00:22:24,710 --> 00:22:22,919
enjoying I actually enjoy all this stuff

632
00:22:26,930 --> 00:22:24,720
I don't I don't think of it as negative

633
00:22:28,430 --> 00:22:26,940
like people are like you're focusing on

634
00:22:30,110 --> 00:22:28,440
the negative and these negative emotions

635
00:22:32,270 --> 00:22:30,120
and these beings I'm like no I love it I

636
00:22:34,010 --> 00:22:32,280
love it it's like I'm not I'm in a good

637
00:22:36,529 --> 00:22:34,020
mood all the time I'm just up till three

638
00:22:39,950 --> 00:22:36,539
in the morning finding new stuff and I'm

639
00:22:42,590 --> 00:22:39,960
so tired but I'm enjoying it so yeah the

640
00:22:45,049 --> 00:22:42,600
one thing I found similar I I listen and

641
00:22:47,149 --> 00:22:45,059
watch all sorts of things that you know

642
00:22:48,529 --> 00:22:47,159
someone if might look at that and go why

643
00:22:50,350 --> 00:22:48,539
on Earth are you watching that for and

644
00:22:52,909 --> 00:22:50,360
it's like well I'm absorbing everything

645
00:22:56,990 --> 00:22:52,919
just so that I'm not sort of focusing on

646
00:22:59,750 --> 00:22:57,000
one narrow you know Echo chamber and

647
00:23:01,130 --> 00:22:59,760
yeah most of it probably is crazy but at

648
00:23:02,810 --> 00:23:01,140
least you know if anything ever comes up

649
00:23:04,730 --> 00:23:02,820
in the future you can be like oh I heard

650
00:23:06,590 --> 00:23:04,740
that here and maybe then start putting

651
00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:06,600
little puzzle pieces together maybe it's

652
00:23:11,690 --> 00:23:08,640
a waste of time but that's just the way

653
00:23:14,029 --> 00:23:11,700
it is I'm afraid so yeah one important

654
00:23:15,289 --> 00:23:14,039
thing I know with Ike people accuse him

655
00:23:16,490 --> 00:23:15,299
of and I'm not going to use certain

656
00:23:18,890 --> 00:23:16,500
words I don't want to get your channel

657
00:23:21,470 --> 00:23:18,900
in trouble because certain things will

658
00:23:22,970 --> 00:23:21,480
give you a strike and he's been accused

659
00:23:25,669 --> 00:23:22,980
of spreading hate

660
00:23:27,649 --> 00:23:25,679
if I actually thought he was spreading

661
00:23:29,090 --> 00:23:27,659
hate I would not mention his work I

662
00:23:32,090 --> 00:23:29,100
would find other sources of information

663
00:23:34,370 --> 00:23:32,100
to get that information to people a lot

664
00:23:35,690 --> 00:23:34,380
of his stuff is only him saying it but

665
00:23:37,669 --> 00:23:35,700
there are other places I can find

666
00:23:40,669 --> 00:23:37,679
certain information so I would not share

667
00:23:44,149 --> 00:23:40,679
it I do not believe what people claim he

668
00:23:45,950 --> 00:23:44,159
is so just know that if I did I would

669
00:23:47,930 --> 00:23:45,960
not share it I'm not to the I'm not the

670
00:23:49,549 --> 00:23:47,940
kind of person that says screw you all

671
00:23:50,870 --> 00:23:49,559
right maybe he's full of hate but I'm

672
00:23:52,610 --> 00:23:50,880
going to share that information nope

673
00:23:54,110 --> 00:23:52,620
that's not me I just don't agree that

674
00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:54,120
he's that and if you read his books

675
00:23:58,549 --> 00:23:56,400
attend his lectures you'll see that so

676
00:24:00,590 --> 00:23:58,559
just wanted to say that not fair enough

677
00:24:01,610 --> 00:24:00,600
absolutely one thing I wanted to talk to

678
00:24:03,770 --> 00:24:01,620
you about is your relationship with

679
00:24:05,330 --> 00:24:03,780
George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell and sort

680
00:24:06,890 --> 00:24:05,340
of if you could sort of go back to sort

681
00:24:08,990 --> 00:24:06,900
of how that sort of started and then

682
00:24:11,210 --> 00:24:09,000
sort of moving into their work and and

683
00:24:14,029 --> 00:24:11,220
everything right up to sort of up to now

684
00:24:18,350 --> 00:24:14,039
as it were I was um

685
00:24:20,750 --> 00:24:18,360
probably fall probably fall of 2017 I

686
00:24:22,070 --> 00:24:20,760
wrote nap a private a DM he had followed

687
00:24:24,590 --> 00:24:22,080
me on Twitter

688
00:24:26,630 --> 00:24:24,600
and we started conversing back and forth

689
00:24:28,130 --> 00:24:26,640
and that's how that relationship started

690
00:24:29,570 --> 00:24:28,140
and then

691
00:24:32,330 --> 00:24:29,580
I don't remember where when it was but

692
00:24:35,510 --> 00:24:32,340
he had me and Danny Silva on Coast to

693
00:24:37,730 --> 00:24:35,520
Coast a few times and then Ryan post

694
00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:37,740
disclosure UFO Jesus was on the last

695
00:24:41,930 --> 00:24:40,080
time we were on and then Corbell I would

696
00:24:43,490 --> 00:24:41,940
interact with on Twitter and then the

697
00:24:46,549 --> 00:24:43,500
same thing we started private you know

698
00:24:48,649 --> 00:24:46,559
messaging and then back and forth some

699
00:24:50,570 --> 00:24:48,659
phone calls and then recently

700
00:24:52,370 --> 00:24:50,580
I saw that Korbel and Knapp were

701
00:24:54,770 --> 00:24:52,380
speaking at the Star Trek convention and

702
00:24:56,029 --> 00:24:54,780
I had already met corbellet I I got

703
00:24:58,909 --> 00:24:56,039
invited to the

704
00:25:01,010 --> 00:24:58,919
Skinwalker Ranch Premiere here and then

705
00:25:02,690 --> 00:25:01,020
I attended the Lazar Premiere in Los

706
00:25:05,149 --> 00:25:02,700
Angeles

707
00:25:08,029 --> 00:25:05,159
um so I saw him and nap here and then I

708
00:25:10,010 --> 00:25:08,039
saw him and nap at UFO Megacon a few

709
00:25:11,930 --> 00:25:10,020
years ago so I had seen him in person

710
00:25:14,149 --> 00:25:11,940
but then now that I consider them

711
00:25:15,950 --> 00:25:14,159
friends I said hey you're going to be in

712
00:25:17,330 --> 00:25:15,960
for the convention you want to get

713
00:25:19,610 --> 00:25:17,340
together for lunch and corbel's just

714
00:25:20,870 --> 00:25:19,620
just come down to the conference so I

715
00:25:22,730 --> 00:25:20,880
did so I hung out with them in the hotel

716
00:25:24,890 --> 00:25:22,740
room beforehand and then afterwards we

717
00:25:27,529 --> 00:25:24,900
went and got some food and during that

718
00:25:28,970 --> 00:25:27,539
conference that lecture about UFOs 101

719
00:25:30,950 --> 00:25:28,980
which Jeremy said you're going to be

720
00:25:32,690 --> 00:25:30,960
bored it's UFO's 101 I'm like I don't

721
00:25:34,669 --> 00:25:32,700
care I mean I love this stuff it's fine

722
00:25:37,250 --> 00:25:34,679
most of the questions were about Lazar

723
00:25:38,510 --> 00:25:37,260
and then Corbell says oh by the way we

724
00:25:40,789 --> 00:25:38,520
were supposed to go on Coast to Coast

725
00:25:42,830 --> 00:25:40,799
tonight but for the first time since

726
00:25:44,570 --> 00:25:42,840
I've been investigating UFOs there was

727
00:25:46,970 --> 00:25:44,580
some suppression efforts that went on

728
00:25:48,769 --> 00:25:46,980
and we're not doing it it's a big big

729
00:25:51,529 --> 00:25:48,779
detail that people need to look over and

730
00:25:54,950 --> 00:25:51,539
Corbell has not expanded on it

731
00:25:56,810 --> 00:25:54,960
um I think it was related to 2000 2019

732
00:25:59,029 --> 00:25:56,820
and his Witnesses but I don't know for

733
00:25:59,990 --> 00:25:59,039
sure so hopefully we'll hear more about

734
00:26:01,549 --> 00:26:00,000
that

735
00:26:03,710 --> 00:26:01,559
um you hear from Lou over the years

736
00:26:05,450 --> 00:26:03,720
there's been a group allegedly from

737
00:26:07,490 --> 00:26:05,460
somebody that Lou was close to who

738
00:26:09,950 --> 00:26:07,500
worked in UFOs that would come in and

739
00:26:11,630 --> 00:26:09,960
grab UFO data they would engage in

740
00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:11,640
intimidation

741
00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:15,360
stories too from other people that are

742
00:26:20,029 --> 00:26:17,039
not even public so

743
00:26:22,610 --> 00:26:20,039
I don't know hopefully it's not I mean

744
00:26:26,450 --> 00:26:22,620
we talk about whistleblowers needing

745
00:26:29,149 --> 00:26:26,460
protection and who knows I don't if if

746
00:26:31,549 --> 00:26:29,159
is you know my most out there theory

747
00:26:32,990 --> 00:26:31,559
that Ike talks about if that's true the

748
00:26:35,450 --> 00:26:33,000
people who have the secret are going to

749
00:26:37,070 --> 00:26:35,460
do whatever they can to keep it I don't

750
00:26:39,289 --> 00:26:37,080
know how far they would go but if I'm a

751
00:26:43,370 --> 00:26:39,299
whistleblower I'm saying you need to

752
00:26:47,210 --> 00:26:43,380
make sure 100 I am safe

753
00:26:48,649 --> 00:26:47,220
24 7 my family Total Protection I made a

754
00:26:49,850 --> 00:26:48,659
joke that it's kind of like the UFO

755
00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:49,860
version of the witness protection

756
00:26:53,870 --> 00:26:52,080
program but it kind of is This is the

757
00:26:55,549 --> 00:26:53,880
biggest story in the history of the

758
00:26:57,470 --> 00:26:55,559
planet if we think it is what we think

759
00:26:58,850 --> 00:26:57,480
it is you know especially if it starts

760
00:27:01,250 --> 00:26:58,860
getting into some of the conspiracy

761
00:27:03,529 --> 00:27:01,260
stuff with humans being involved so you

762
00:27:04,909 --> 00:27:03,539
need protection so I don't I if I'm one

763
00:27:06,230 --> 00:27:04,919
of those whistleblowers I would be

764
00:27:07,730 --> 00:27:06,240
concerned right now and I don't want to

765
00:27:09,649 --> 00:27:07,740
I don't want to put it out there because

766
00:27:10,970 --> 00:27:09,659
people are saying well UFO Twitter is

767
00:27:13,909 --> 00:27:10,980
keeping those people from coming forward

768
00:27:15,890 --> 00:27:13,919
no I don't think so I think it's very I

769
00:27:17,450 --> 00:27:15,900
think it's a very common sense thing to

770
00:27:19,430 --> 00:27:17,460
make sure they have protection and I'm

771
00:27:20,690 --> 00:27:19,440
sure they they show I'm sure that I'm

772
00:27:21,710 --> 00:27:20,700
not saying anything that they don't

773
00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:21,720
already know

774
00:27:26,269 --> 00:27:24,720
so let's see where that goes because I

775
00:27:28,549 --> 00:27:26,279
don't I'm not I'm a little skeptical

776
00:27:30,110 --> 00:27:28,559
that it's gonna come out because

777
00:27:32,149 --> 00:27:30,120
I don't know I don't know what what

778
00:27:33,890 --> 00:27:32,159
Congress how far Congress can go how

779
00:27:35,750 --> 00:27:33,900
much power Congress has to force

780
00:27:38,330 --> 00:27:35,760
information to come out so let's and how

781
00:27:39,649 --> 00:27:38,340
much will they have to keep pushing you

782
00:27:41,090 --> 00:27:39,659
know keep pushing at it because they're

783
00:27:43,250 --> 00:27:41,100
going to need to do that

784
00:27:45,049 --> 00:27:43,260
absolutely and one thing that I'm not

785
00:27:48,830 --> 00:27:45,059
convinced about is we've seen multiple

786
00:27:50,570 --> 00:27:48,840
iterations of a UFO office uh over the

787
00:27:52,549 --> 00:27:50,580
last couple of years that it just keeps

788
00:27:53,990 --> 00:27:52,559
changing re-staffing and how are they

789
00:27:55,850 --> 00:27:54,000
ever going to get any work done if

790
00:27:58,010 --> 00:27:55,860
they're just forever changing and and

791
00:27:59,750 --> 00:27:58,020
that so maybe it's going to take another

792
00:28:01,909 --> 00:27:59,760
new office to be formulated which

793
00:28:03,649 --> 00:28:01,919
supposedly is happening and then a bit

794
00:28:05,090 --> 00:28:03,659
of time a time for them to actually do

795
00:28:07,370 --> 00:28:05,100
some work

796
00:28:09,110 --> 00:28:07,380
um maybe then things will start moving I

797
00:28:11,390 --> 00:28:09,120
don't know I just everything seems to be

798
00:28:13,190 --> 00:28:11,400
moving quickly again and I'm just trying

799
00:28:14,690 --> 00:28:13,200
to look at it you know taking a step

800
00:28:16,190 --> 00:28:14,700
back and not expecting it all to come

801
00:28:17,510 --> 00:28:16,200
out really really quick yeah that's a

802
00:28:19,909 --> 00:28:17,520
good attitude you know and if we get

803
00:28:22,310 --> 00:28:19,919
surprises along the way great I mean I'm

804
00:28:24,049 --> 00:28:22,320
not saying I mean I did did not think we

805
00:28:25,789 --> 00:28:24,059
were going to have hearings this year

806
00:28:27,830 --> 00:28:25,799
because I was told

807
00:28:29,870 --> 00:28:27,840
a source said that there was nothing in

808
00:28:31,490 --> 00:28:29,880
the works but it happened so I was like

809
00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:31,500
yeah I was wrong person who told me it

810
00:28:35,330 --> 00:28:33,120
was wrong I was happy I mean obviously

811
00:28:38,090 --> 00:28:35,340
it's not exactly what we wanted you know

812
00:28:40,610 --> 00:28:38,100
the hearings it was a start but

813
00:28:42,350 --> 00:28:40,620
for me I want the whole ASAP stuff to be

814
00:28:44,210 --> 00:28:42,360
discussed because that goes down the

815
00:28:46,490 --> 00:28:44,220
interdimensional being route and and

816
00:28:48,649 --> 00:28:46,500
hitchhikers and all that stuff and why

817
00:28:50,690 --> 00:28:48,659
are they here and George Knapp spoke

818
00:28:52,970 --> 00:28:50,700
about and Knapp and Kelleher spoke about

819
00:28:55,190 --> 00:28:52,980
these beings possibly creating fear

820
00:28:57,769 --> 00:28:55,200
artificially because they get something

821
00:28:59,750 --> 00:28:57,779
from it so that's brought up in skit in

822
00:29:01,130 --> 00:28:59,760
Hunt for the skinwalker and now we have

823
00:29:02,750 --> 00:29:01,140
skin workers at the Pentagon talking

824
00:29:04,310 --> 00:29:02,760
about hitchhikers which I'd never heard

825
00:29:05,930 --> 00:29:04,320
before and that goes into Poltergeist

826
00:29:08,149 --> 00:29:05,940
cases too there are other books out

827
00:29:10,010 --> 00:29:08,159
there before skinwalkers at the Pentagon

828
00:29:12,830 --> 00:29:10,020
came out that talk about that same thing

829
00:29:14,690 --> 00:29:12,840
hitchhiker phenomenon so I think that's

830
00:29:17,210 --> 00:29:14,700
important too and I do have theories on

831
00:29:18,590 --> 00:29:17,220
that but it's just a theory so no that's

832
00:29:20,330 --> 00:29:18,600
fair enough it's good to have theories

833
00:29:22,730 --> 00:29:20,340
it's good to speculate as long as you

834
00:29:24,950 --> 00:29:22,740
don't put it across as factual then

835
00:29:27,649 --> 00:29:24,960
everything's there yeah very rare that

836
00:29:30,649 --> 00:29:27,659
I'll say I know for a fact I'm like this

837
00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:30,659
is an opinion please do not box me in

838
00:29:34,250 --> 00:29:32,640
here and sometimes I think out loud and

839
00:29:36,049 --> 00:29:34,260
I'll put my thoughts on Twitter too soon

840
00:29:37,549 --> 00:29:36,059
but I'd rather do that and say oh yeah I

841
00:29:39,289 --> 00:29:37,559
was wrong about that you know I'm just

842
00:29:41,750 --> 00:29:39,299
thinking thinking out loud so you guys

843
00:29:43,610 --> 00:29:41,760
can see that no that's it that's I

844
00:29:45,710 --> 00:29:43,620
appreciate that answer we you did

845
00:29:49,310 --> 00:29:45,720
mention in that last bit about Corbell

846
00:29:52,250 --> 00:29:49,320
and the 2019 case and when we add that

847
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:52,260
to sort of Nimitz

848
00:29:56,269 --> 00:29:54,000
um Theodore Roosevelt and that and then

849
00:30:00,049 --> 00:29:56,279
we get into that whole conversation of

850
00:30:01,909 --> 00:30:00,059
is it anomalous or is it black Tech you

851
00:30:03,230 --> 00:30:01,919
know Advanced drones where where do you

852
00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:03,240
sit in that whole picture of that

853
00:30:08,210 --> 00:30:05,760
conversation well in the past week I've

854
00:30:10,669 --> 00:30:08,220
given more thought to the human Tech on

855
00:30:13,130 --> 00:30:10,679
2019 but

856
00:30:14,810 --> 00:30:13,140
I don't think it was testing of tech if

857
00:30:17,990 --> 00:30:14,820
it's human Tech that

858
00:30:20,090 --> 00:30:18,000
that basically all those ships dealt

859
00:30:22,430 --> 00:30:20,100
with these drone-like objects that

860
00:30:24,889 --> 00:30:22,440
appeared where they weren't able to

861
00:30:26,450 --> 00:30:24,899
track them coming in they weren't able

862
00:30:27,950 --> 00:30:26,460
to track them going out so they don't

863
00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:27,960
know who's operating

864
00:30:32,450 --> 00:30:30,480
if it's human Tech it's such Advanced

865
00:30:33,950 --> 00:30:32,460
that it can just basically be stealth

866
00:30:35,930 --> 00:30:33,960
until the time where they're just right

867
00:30:38,269 --> 00:30:35,940
there and then hit a switch there they

868
00:30:40,130 --> 00:30:38,279
are or it's non-human Tech and it's

869
00:30:42,350 --> 00:30:40,140
Child's Play for them to you know

870
00:30:45,230 --> 00:30:42,360
basically pop in and out I don't know

871
00:30:47,630 --> 00:30:45,240
which I always leaned I I leaned

872
00:30:49,250 --> 00:30:47,640
non-human for a while now I'm probably

873
00:30:52,210 --> 00:30:49,260
leaning

874
00:30:54,889 --> 00:30:52,220
I probably would lean human but

875
00:30:56,510 --> 00:30:54,899
anomalous definitely Anonymous anomalous

876
00:30:58,669 --> 00:30:56,520
and then you ask why why would that go

877
00:31:00,049 --> 00:30:58,679
on and my theory would be whatever that

878
00:31:03,470 --> 00:31:00,059
is it's basically trying to send a

879
00:31:05,210 --> 00:31:03,480
message I would think it's not US tech I

880
00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:05,220
don't think it was testing maybe it was

881
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:07,440
a non-governmental group saying look at

882
00:31:12,409 --> 00:31:09,600
this is our technology this is what we

883
00:31:14,029 --> 00:31:12,419
can do you can't stop it so you better

884
00:31:16,010 --> 00:31:14,039
do what we're saying and I've never said

885
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:16,020
that publicly before because

886
00:31:20,210 --> 00:31:18,480
I know it's not more conspiratorial but

887
00:31:22,010 --> 00:31:20,220
I would I think there's another group

888
00:31:24,110 --> 00:31:22,020
out there a human group that's not

889
00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:24,120
connected to a government that has some

890
00:31:27,769 --> 00:31:26,159
of this technology which gets me into my

891
00:31:29,690 --> 00:31:27,779
my kit Green interview which I know

892
00:31:31,789 --> 00:31:29,700
people are waiting for

893
00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:31,799
um there's a hold up because at the end

894
00:31:36,590 --> 00:31:35,039
he talks about a non-government group he

895
00:31:37,970 --> 00:31:36,600
thinks that's responsible for some of

896
00:31:40,310 --> 00:31:37,980
this he actually also talks about

897
00:31:41,810 --> 00:31:40,320
calaris where he thinks it was a human

898
00:31:43,210 --> 00:31:41,820
group and I thought about it I'm like

899
00:31:45,950 --> 00:31:43,220
you know what you might be right because

900
00:31:47,029 --> 00:31:45,960
Claris does not match any other UFO

901
00:31:49,490 --> 00:31:47,039
cases like

902
00:31:51,230 --> 00:31:49,500
all of a sudden the the whatever

903
00:31:52,850 --> 00:31:51,240
non-human intelligence is going to just

904
00:31:55,070 --> 00:31:52,860
start shooting beams at people and

905
00:31:57,590 --> 00:31:55,080
killing them I mean maybe it was maybe

906
00:31:58,430 --> 00:31:57,600
it wasn't non-human it just doesn't fit

907
00:32:00,409 --> 00:31:58,440
um

908
00:32:01,789 --> 00:32:00,419
so you got into if it wasn't who was

909
00:32:03,049 --> 00:32:01,799
that group and I don't think it was a

910
00:32:04,730 --> 00:32:03,059
you know he says I don't think it was

911
00:32:07,010 --> 00:32:04,740
the United States government and he he

912
00:32:08,389 --> 00:32:07,020
throws the n-word in there Nazis he

913
00:32:10,130 --> 00:32:08,399
brought it up

914
00:32:12,529 --> 00:32:10,140
um you hear stories about them you know

915
00:32:13,909 --> 00:32:12,539
relocating in Argentina did they have a

916
00:32:16,549 --> 00:32:13,919
breakthrough at some point they're known

917
00:32:18,049 --> 00:32:16,559
for a cult you know all the occult that

918
00:32:19,730 --> 00:32:18,059
Hitler was interested in did they have a

919
00:32:21,529 --> 00:32:19,740
breakthrough with these interdimensional

920
00:32:23,149 --> 00:32:21,539
beings that they develop technology that

921
00:32:25,130 --> 00:32:23,159
way I don't know

922
00:32:27,049 --> 00:32:25,140
um this is stuff that Lou brought up the

923
00:32:29,149 --> 00:32:27,059
NASA occult connection so anybody who

924
00:32:30,830 --> 00:32:29,159
interviews him again assuming Jesse

925
00:32:32,810 --> 00:32:30,840
hasn't asked him about it somebody needs

926
00:32:34,549 --> 00:32:32,820
to ask him and he'll ask and he'll

927
00:32:37,730 --> 00:32:34,559
answer I'm sure if it's not classified

928
00:32:39,830 --> 00:32:37,740
obviously he may pass because I've asked

929
00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:39,840
some stuff where he I don't think it was

930
00:32:44,149 --> 00:32:40,799
classified

931
00:32:45,769 --> 00:32:44,159
sensitive information a lot of these

932
00:32:48,169 --> 00:32:45,779
guys will not talk about sensitive

933
00:32:50,630 --> 00:32:48,179
information which bothers me

934
00:32:53,149 --> 00:32:50,640
um I was told sensitive information that

935
00:32:54,590 --> 00:32:53,159
I could not share publicly and it I was

936
00:32:56,690 --> 00:32:54,600
like what it's like if it's not

937
00:32:57,950 --> 00:32:56,700
classified let me share it like no it's

938
00:33:00,590 --> 00:32:57,960
too embarrassing for the US government

939
00:33:02,389 --> 00:33:00,600
that's ridiculous you know so that's

940
00:33:04,789 --> 00:33:02,399
their time and I understand I mean but

941
00:33:07,669 --> 00:33:04,799
it frustrates me classified okay

942
00:33:10,490 --> 00:33:07,679
sensitive no let me share it so

943
00:33:12,230 --> 00:33:10,500
yeah um there are questions that Lou can

944
00:33:13,610 --> 00:33:12,240
be asked about a lot of stuff and we

945
00:33:14,870 --> 00:33:13,620
haven't you and I we haven't even talked

946
00:33:17,269 --> 00:33:14,880
yet about

947
00:33:19,310 --> 00:33:17,279
The Reincarnation stuff all that stuff

948
00:33:20,570 --> 00:33:19,320
plays into this if the theory is right

949
00:33:23,810 --> 00:33:20,580
and I think

950
00:33:24,769 --> 00:33:23,820
I have not a strong opinion but I have a

951
00:33:26,330 --> 00:33:24,779
nice

952
00:33:28,250 --> 00:33:26,340
I'm trying to think of the word my

953
00:33:29,750 --> 00:33:28,260
opinion is that all this stuff plays in

954
00:33:33,470 --> 00:33:29,760
together whether it's interdimensional

955
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:33,480
black technology maybe maybe Nazi

956
00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:35,570
technology interdimensional

957
00:33:36,769 --> 00:33:36,000
[Music]

958
00:33:38,690 --> 00:33:36,779
um

959
00:33:40,610 --> 00:33:38,700
and The Reincarnation stuff which we can

960
00:33:42,049 --> 00:33:40,620
maybe get into later on which for me I

961
00:33:44,210 --> 00:33:42,059
have no doubt the evidence for

962
00:33:46,549 --> 00:33:44,220
reincarnation is very strong whether

963
00:33:48,350 --> 00:33:46,559
it's connected to this whole conspiracy

964
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:48,360
I don't know and I know for a lot of

965
00:33:52,430 --> 00:33:51,360
people that's way too much so far out of

966
00:33:53,990 --> 00:33:52,440
the box

967
00:33:55,490 --> 00:33:54,000
there are some people who are nuts and

968
00:33:57,710 --> 00:33:55,500
bolts people who don't want to I'd say

969
00:33:59,029 --> 00:33:57,720
90 of what I said today is nonsense to

970
00:34:00,590 --> 00:33:59,039
them

971
00:34:01,909 --> 00:34:00,600
um and then you have people that are

972
00:34:04,490 --> 00:34:01,919
somewhere above here and then you go

973
00:34:06,409 --> 00:34:04,500
into reincarnation they're like oh no no

974
00:34:07,970 --> 00:34:06,419
no no no no no no I'm like but the

975
00:34:09,290 --> 00:34:07,980
evidence if you look at Ian Stevenson

976
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:09,300
and Jim Tucker the evidence for

977
00:34:13,550 --> 00:34:11,760
reincarnation is really strong there's

978
00:34:15,710 --> 00:34:13,560
been Psychology today and I think

979
00:34:18,109 --> 00:34:15,720
Scientific American had articles based

980
00:34:20,629 --> 00:34:18,119
on Ian Stevenson's work the guy studied

981
00:34:22,909 --> 00:34:20,639
3 000 children cases of reincarnation

982
00:34:24,589 --> 00:34:22,919
alleged reincarnation Leslie Kane wrote

983
00:34:27,349 --> 00:34:24,599
about it in her book

984
00:34:28,970 --> 00:34:27,359
um her life after death book yeah so I

985
00:34:31,450 --> 00:34:28,980
think it's a part of this whole story

986
00:34:34,609 --> 00:34:31,460
but it's it's a lot for people to accept

987
00:34:36,950 --> 00:34:34,619
so I I'm still going there on Twitter

988
00:34:38,930 --> 00:34:36,960
I'll go here on any show people ask me

989
00:34:42,530 --> 00:34:38,940
about it but and I have asked people

990
00:34:45,290 --> 00:34:42,540
behind the scenes and I will continue to

991
00:34:47,389 --> 00:34:45,300
hold on give me a second Vinnie yeah no

992
00:34:49,430 --> 00:34:47,399
worries

993
00:34:51,649 --> 00:34:49,440
guys I have been seeing your questions I

994
00:34:53,270 --> 00:34:51,659
think I've got them all lined up uh keep

995
00:34:55,790 --> 00:34:53,280
them coming but please pop them in

996
00:34:57,230 --> 00:34:55,800
capital letters it just stands out uh

997
00:34:59,690 --> 00:34:57,240
because I've got my notes and obviously

998
00:35:01,970 --> 00:34:59,700
all sorts going on so so I will continue

999
00:35:03,890 --> 00:35:01,980
to ask sources I want that whole back I

1000
00:35:05,450 --> 00:35:03,900
will say hey this is my theory am I off

1001
00:35:07,310 --> 00:35:05,460
on the wrong track am I wasting my time

1002
00:35:09,349 --> 00:35:07,320
some of them I've already had feedback

1003
00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:09,359
on some stuff oh I don't yeah I don't

1004
00:35:12,890 --> 00:35:10,560
think so but I'm like all right I don't

1005
00:35:14,690 --> 00:35:12,900
agree with you but that's fine

1006
00:35:16,430 --> 00:35:14,700
um I know they have different views

1007
00:35:18,109 --> 00:35:16,440
behind the scenes all the players they

1008
00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:18,119
don't agree on stuff so

1009
00:35:21,410 --> 00:35:19,920
I definitely would like to get some of

1010
00:35:23,150 --> 00:35:21,420
their opinions and I will continue to do

1011
00:35:25,069 --> 00:35:23,160
that um but I'll continue to share stuff

1012
00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:25,079
and like I say on Twitter if something I

1013
00:35:29,089 --> 00:35:26,640
share offends you I'm sorry you can

1014
00:35:31,370 --> 00:35:29,099
unfollow I totally understand but this

1015
00:35:33,230 --> 00:35:31,380
is where I feel like I need to go and

1016
00:35:36,170 --> 00:35:33,240
it's something I got into early on and I

1017
00:35:38,150 --> 00:35:36,180
made a complete circle so here I am yeah

1018
00:35:39,950 --> 00:35:38,160
that's I think it's a great thing you

1019
00:35:42,050 --> 00:35:39,960
know I like to think I've got an open

1020
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:42,060
mind sometimes it's difficult when you

1021
00:35:46,849 --> 00:35:44,400
hear one part of the subject you like

1022
00:35:48,230 --> 00:35:46,859
you know that just sounds too crazy but

1023
00:35:49,849 --> 00:35:48,240
then if you don't know then we don't

1024
00:35:51,349 --> 00:35:49,859
know so you know I think it's Brave that

1025
00:35:53,690 --> 00:35:51,359
you're willing to go out onto those

1026
00:35:55,490 --> 00:35:53,700
those extremes and that and I'll always

1027
00:35:57,230 --> 00:35:55,500
listen to those kind of things and we'll

1028
00:35:59,089 --> 00:35:57,240
definitely get into The Reincarnation

1029
00:36:00,829 --> 00:35:59,099
stuff in a bit but a follow-on question

1030
00:36:03,470 --> 00:36:00,839
here from uh

1031
00:36:05,750 --> 00:36:03,480
numb her too please ask Joe his takes on

1032
00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:05,760
Timothy Taylor and kit green

1033
00:36:12,650 --> 00:36:07,200
Tim Taylor

1034
00:36:14,270 --> 00:36:12,660
uh I know he has his ritual that he goes

1035
00:36:16,550 --> 00:36:14,280
through that Diana posalka spoke about

1036
00:36:19,010 --> 00:36:16,560
and

1037
00:36:21,050 --> 00:36:19,020
he may be getting information from

1038
00:36:23,450 --> 00:36:21,060
although I've heard people skeptical

1039
00:36:24,230 --> 00:36:23,460
that his information is helpful

1040
00:36:27,050 --> 00:36:24,240
um

1041
00:36:29,630 --> 00:36:27,060
and he's developed amazing

1042
00:36:32,150 --> 00:36:29,640
Technology based on his

1043
00:36:35,329 --> 00:36:32,160
Protocols of how to communicate with

1044
00:36:36,170 --> 00:36:35,339
whatever he's communicating with

1045
00:36:37,970 --> 00:36:36,180
um

1046
00:36:39,470 --> 00:36:37,980
kit green

1047
00:36:41,329 --> 00:36:39,480
I'm sorry I don't know a ton about

1048
00:36:43,130 --> 00:36:41,339
Timothy Taylor but kit green and

1049
00:36:44,930 --> 00:36:43,140
somebody wants to add in and ask me a

1050
00:36:45,770 --> 00:36:44,940
specific question about something feel

1051
00:36:49,490 --> 00:36:45,780
free

1052
00:36:51,650 --> 00:36:49,500
kit green I wrote to Kit Green in 2019 I

1053
00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:51,660
said hey I I really don't know I'm

1054
00:36:55,550 --> 00:36:53,280
really open I don't know what UFOs

1055
00:36:57,010 --> 00:36:55,560
represent and I went through basically

1056
00:37:00,290 --> 00:36:57,020
somebody I forgot to tell you somebody

1057
00:37:01,730 --> 00:37:00,300
shared with me an audio recording which

1058
00:37:03,890 --> 00:37:01,740
had been floating around but I didn't

1059
00:37:06,890 --> 00:37:03,900
have it and it was of Kit green talking

1060
00:37:09,530 --> 00:37:06,900
with his favorite medical intuitive

1061
00:37:11,390 --> 00:37:09,540
who is doing sessions on an experiencer

1062
00:37:13,069 --> 00:37:11,400
basically she's like this is what I'm

1063
00:37:15,349 --> 00:37:13,079
picking up on the experiencer what

1064
00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:15,359
happened what's going on with these et's

1065
00:37:20,270 --> 00:37:18,720
in the area and his health issues she's

1066
00:37:22,609 --> 00:37:20,280
more known for her medical information

1067
00:37:24,109 --> 00:37:22,619
so I did the whole transcript and I

1068
00:37:25,550 --> 00:37:24,119
wrote to kid green I'm like hey I got

1069
00:37:27,530 --> 00:37:25,560
this transcript I know you probably

1070
00:37:30,170 --> 00:37:27,540
didn't want this out but I have it I'm

1071
00:37:32,810 --> 00:37:30,180
putting it on my blog I go can I also

1072
00:37:35,089 --> 00:37:32,820
interview you and he goes yeah you can

1073
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:35,099
um yeah he let me interview him in 2019

1074
00:37:39,950 --> 00:37:36,960
December I have not put it out yet it's

1075
00:37:42,050 --> 00:37:39,960
almost done I'm just I'm just hung up on

1076
00:37:43,310 --> 00:37:42,060
the on the human Tech aspect trying to

1077
00:37:45,230 --> 00:37:43,320
figure out where I want to go because I

1078
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:45,240
usually add stuff to the transcripts

1079
00:37:49,609 --> 00:37:47,280
I'll add links and my own thoughts yeah

1080
00:37:52,250 --> 00:37:49,619
that part is hanging me up so

1081
00:37:53,870 --> 00:37:52,260
he let me interview him

1082
00:37:56,329 --> 00:37:53,880
it was

1083
00:37:57,950 --> 00:37:56,339
probably like a couple hours a really

1084
00:37:59,450 --> 00:37:57,960
smart guy and at the time I had an

1085
00:38:02,210 --> 00:37:59,460
opinion when he was speaking about black

1086
00:38:04,490 --> 00:38:02,220
technology I'm like ah this is kit just

1087
00:38:06,050 --> 00:38:04,500
being skeptical and just being the you

1088
00:38:08,089 --> 00:38:06,060
know giving the

1089
00:38:10,069 --> 00:38:08,099
Devil's Advocate and he's just not

1090
00:38:12,109 --> 00:38:10,079
wanting to talk about non-human

1091
00:38:14,270 --> 00:38:12,119
technology or non-human intelligence but

1092
00:38:16,130 --> 00:38:14,280
three years later I don't think that's

1093
00:38:17,630 --> 00:38:16,140
what was going on I mean I mean yeah he

1094
00:38:19,370 --> 00:38:17,640
works in a medical practice he has to be

1095
00:38:20,829 --> 00:38:19,380
careful of what he says

1096
00:38:23,329 --> 00:38:20,839
um but

1097
00:38:25,970 --> 00:38:23,339
he shared a story about his parents

1098
00:38:28,910 --> 00:38:25,980
having a UFO sighting in Wisconsin in

1099
00:38:31,490 --> 00:38:28,920
the early 30s of a classic Flying Saucer

1100
00:38:33,470 --> 00:38:31,500
coming out of the water with multiple

1101
00:38:35,750 --> 00:38:33,480
Witnesses it was in Wisconsin so

1102
00:38:37,069 --> 00:38:35,760
obviously that's not black Tech I would

1103
00:38:38,870 --> 00:38:37,079
say

1104
00:38:41,569 --> 00:38:38,880
um I don't think he thinks it's

1105
00:38:44,150 --> 00:38:41,579
extraterrestrial either so

1106
00:38:45,829 --> 00:38:44,160
I would really be we don't go down the

1107
00:38:48,410 --> 00:38:45,839
interdimensional route in that interview

1108
00:38:50,089 --> 00:38:48,420
I wish I had been where I am now

1109
00:38:51,470 --> 00:38:50,099
back then because I would have asked him

1110
00:38:53,870 --> 00:38:51,480
about it but

1111
00:38:55,730 --> 00:38:53,880
yeah he was a really interesting guy he

1112
00:38:58,069 --> 00:38:55,740
was back in the early days of the remote

1113
00:38:59,930 --> 00:38:58,079
viewing program he's right there

1114
00:39:01,970 --> 00:38:59,940
um he was on the UFO desk and in my

1115
00:39:03,890 --> 00:39:01,980
interview I said he goes the UFO desk

1116
00:39:05,870 --> 00:39:03,900
was you know we did remote viewing and

1117
00:39:08,990 --> 00:39:05,880
some UFO cases three cases I had three

1118
00:39:09,589 --> 00:39:09,000
classified documents on UFOs

1119
00:39:12,109 --> 00:39:09,599
um

1120
00:39:13,370 --> 00:39:12,119
bent Waters because of the nuke angle

1121
00:39:15,770 --> 00:39:13,380
yeah

1122
00:39:18,770 --> 00:39:15,780
think Claris and then I forget what the

1123
00:39:22,550 --> 00:39:18,780
other one was I think it was Terran 77

1124
00:39:23,990 --> 00:39:22,560
Iran case so he goes it's I said are you

1125
00:39:26,030 --> 00:39:24,000
frustrated that

1126
00:39:28,190 --> 00:39:26,040
you spend such a you spent such a small

1127
00:39:29,750 --> 00:39:28,200
time amount of your small such a small

1128
00:39:31,730 --> 00:39:29,760
amount in your life has been spent on

1129
00:39:33,349 --> 00:39:31,740
UFOs but you're known as the UFO desk

1130
00:39:35,690 --> 00:39:33,359
guy and he's like I said is that

1131
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:35,700
frustrating he goes he says they're

1132
00:39:40,069 --> 00:39:38,640
freaking really upsets me he's like he

1133
00:39:41,390 --> 00:39:40,079
was upset you know not really upset with

1134
00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:41,400
me but yeah

1135
00:39:46,010 --> 00:39:42,960
um but he goes but hey it's not true

1136
00:39:46,730 --> 00:39:46,020
it's not not untrue I do do that

1137
00:39:49,730 --> 00:39:46,740
um

1138
00:39:53,390 --> 00:39:49,740
he he is the one I believe when Jim

1139
00:39:55,490 --> 00:39:53,400
semivan the former CIA spy had he had

1140
00:39:58,790 --> 00:39:55,500
his abduction but he also had a hooded

1141
00:40:00,770 --> 00:39:58,800
being he says walk through his wall

1142
00:40:04,010 --> 00:40:00,780
and it was the same night his friend

1143
00:40:05,930 --> 00:40:04,020
died and there might be a connection so

1144
00:40:07,190 --> 00:40:05,940
yeah this was after his abduction I

1145
00:40:09,470 --> 00:40:07,200
don't know the year of it he had this

1146
00:40:11,270 --> 00:40:09,480
hooded Bean come in stay there and then

1147
00:40:14,750 --> 00:40:11,280
walk right through the wall again

1148
00:40:16,430 --> 00:40:14,760
and he said that uh I think he he didn't

1149
00:40:18,890 --> 00:40:16,440
say who the person was but he says a

1150
00:40:20,450 --> 00:40:18,900
doctor who has a temper wanted me to

1151
00:40:22,430 --> 00:40:20,460
communicate with that being and I told

1152
00:40:24,650 --> 00:40:22,440
him I'm not interested in communicating

1153
00:40:26,270 --> 00:40:24,660
with that I'm pretty sure that was kit

1154
00:40:29,630 --> 00:40:26,280
green who told him to go communicate

1155
00:40:31,490 --> 00:40:29,640
because kit does have a temper some of

1156
00:40:33,470 --> 00:40:31,500
the emails we exchanged

1157
00:40:34,790 --> 00:40:33,480
um were on good terms right now no

1158
00:40:36,170 --> 00:40:34,800
problem it was just something we had a

1159
00:40:38,270 --> 00:40:36,180
disagreement on but

1160
00:40:41,329 --> 00:40:38,280
I think that was kit green kit green I

1161
00:40:42,589 --> 00:40:41,339
think kit green realizes I think if I

1162
00:40:44,210 --> 00:40:42,599
were to interview kit green today and

1163
00:40:45,290 --> 00:40:44,220
talk about interdimensional he may be a

1164
00:40:46,910 --> 00:40:45,300
lot more open

1165
00:40:48,170 --> 00:40:46,920
but I'm not sure like I said he works in

1166
00:40:49,730 --> 00:40:48,180
a medical practice and you have a

1167
00:40:51,530 --> 00:40:49,740
reputation reputation you don't want to

1168
00:40:53,630 --> 00:40:51,540
be known as the medical practice that

1169
00:40:55,250 --> 00:40:53,640
has that crazy guy who talks about

1170
00:40:56,870 --> 00:40:55,260
interdimensional beings so you have to

1171
00:40:59,630 --> 00:40:56,880
he has to be careful obviously he still

1172
00:41:02,750 --> 00:40:59,640
works you know I think he's in his 70s

1173
00:41:03,410 --> 00:41:02,760
um still really sharp though yeah so you

1174
00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:03,420
know you're talking about

1175
00:41:07,910 --> 00:41:05,040
interdimensionals a lot more kind of

1176
00:41:09,770 --> 00:41:07,920
higher than the the E.T hypotheses but

1177
00:41:11,390 --> 00:41:09,780
where does the kind of ultra-terrestrial

1178
00:41:13,970 --> 00:41:11,400
fit in for you you know we recently saw

1179
00:41:16,370 --> 00:41:13,980
put-offs paper come out so is that still

1180
00:41:17,569 --> 00:41:16,380
kind of hovering in between for you I

1181
00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:17,579
think Ultra terrestrial is really

1182
00:41:21,710 --> 00:41:20,160
interdimensional okay um is it possible

1183
00:41:24,050 --> 00:41:21,720
there's also something that was on this

1184
00:41:26,690 --> 00:41:24,060
planet that was here like the Atlantis

1185
00:41:29,510 --> 00:41:26,700
Theory yeah it's possible but when when

1186
00:41:32,210 --> 00:41:29,520
I hear Keel talk about ultra-terrestrial

1187
00:41:34,250 --> 00:41:32,220
it's to me it's 100 interdimensional

1188
00:41:37,069 --> 00:41:34,260
that has amazing abilities that can see

1189
00:41:38,930 --> 00:41:37,079
the past future uh he thinks he thinks

1190
00:41:40,790 --> 00:41:38,940
psychics and mediums are communicating

1191
00:41:42,530 --> 00:41:40,800
with these beings

1192
00:41:44,810 --> 00:41:42,540
um that we're not mediums or not talking

1193
00:41:47,510 --> 00:41:44,820
to the dead and these beings will mess

1194
00:41:48,770 --> 00:41:47,520
with us as Jim semivan says you know he

1195
00:41:50,690 --> 00:41:48,780
says they're effing with us they're

1196
00:41:52,430 --> 00:41:50,700
effing with us

1197
00:41:53,270 --> 00:41:52,440
um those are the same inner dimensionals

1198
00:41:54,890 --> 00:41:53,280
I think

1199
00:41:57,589 --> 00:41:54,900
um they also heal people people have

1200
00:41:59,390 --> 00:41:57,599
gotten healed so it's like I think I

1201
00:42:01,790 --> 00:41:59,400
personally think

1202
00:42:03,530 --> 00:42:01,800
and this is this is not a strong opinion

1203
00:42:05,030 --> 00:42:03,540
I think maybe some of those beings who

1204
00:42:08,089 --> 00:42:05,040
are doing the healing are the same one

1205
00:42:10,609 --> 00:42:08,099
negative wise but it's propaganda

1206
00:42:13,010 --> 00:42:10,619
propaganda is a part of this if you read

1207
00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:13,020
Linda Moulton's house Linda Moulton Howe

1208
00:42:17,210 --> 00:42:14,880
and people are like Oh Linda Moulton

1209
00:42:19,310 --> 00:42:17,220
Howe I'm like listen I've criticized her

1210
00:42:22,609 --> 00:42:19,320
too but in her book glimpses of other

1211
00:42:24,109 --> 00:42:22,619
realities volume two she talks about the

1212
00:42:26,089 --> 00:42:24,119
writers who communicated with Ray

1213
00:42:27,829 --> 00:42:26,099
Boucher and I may even be saying his

1214
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:27,839
name wrong he's irreverent and they were

1215
00:42:31,250 --> 00:42:29,280
talking about how

1216
00:42:33,950 --> 00:42:31,260
there's certain there was two DOD people

1217
00:42:36,050 --> 00:42:33,960
that showed Rey their credentials and

1218
00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:36,060
they said in these programs there are

1219
00:42:38,569 --> 00:42:37,680
people in these black programs that try

1220
00:42:40,430 --> 00:42:38,579
to communicate with these

1221
00:42:42,170 --> 00:42:40,440
interdimensional beings

1222
00:42:43,790 --> 00:42:42,180
um and they believe that they're using

1223
00:42:45,290 --> 00:42:43,800
these beings but meanwhile Rey's like

1224
00:42:47,270 --> 00:42:45,300
these these guys are like no these

1225
00:42:48,050 --> 00:42:47,280
beings are using them

1226
00:42:51,290 --> 00:42:48,060
um

1227
00:42:53,030 --> 00:42:51,300
for technology and and I forgot where I

1228
00:42:54,050 --> 00:42:53,040
was going Vinnie what was I just saying

1229
00:42:57,050 --> 00:42:54,060
about

1230
00:42:59,630 --> 00:42:57,060
before that uh what kind of a

1231
00:43:02,569 --> 00:42:59,640
terrestrial interdimensional crossovers

1232
00:43:03,950 --> 00:43:02,579
uh Linda Martin Howe Linda Martin Howe

1233
00:43:05,750 --> 00:43:03,960
so yeah

1234
00:43:07,550 --> 00:43:05,760
um I forgot what I say about that but

1235
00:43:10,010 --> 00:43:07,560
it's in her book and I will pull that

1236
00:43:10,849 --> 00:43:10,020
out it's also on Ray bolshe's website he

1237
00:43:15,650 --> 00:43:10,859
has

1238
00:43:16,510 --> 00:43:15,660
on his website if you just type in his

1239
00:43:19,550 --> 00:43:16,520
name

1240
00:43:21,470 --> 00:43:19,560
b-o-e-c-h-e Reverend Ray boshay and he

1241
00:43:23,150 --> 00:43:21,480
has all that interaction that was from

1242
00:43:25,670 --> 00:43:23,160
the book it's also online you can read

1243
00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:25,680
about it and

1244
00:43:31,490 --> 00:43:27,599
the person one of my sources told me

1245
00:43:33,230 --> 00:43:31,500
read Boucher read valet read paselka

1246
00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:33,240
those are the three

1247
00:43:37,970 --> 00:43:35,280
um I think those are all in an

1248
00:43:40,190 --> 00:43:37,980
interdimensional Realm like I said and I

1249
00:43:42,890 --> 00:43:40,200
had somebody also tell me that

1250
00:43:45,290 --> 00:43:42,900
the aliens slash ETS are the ones we

1251
00:43:49,730 --> 00:43:45,300
know the least amount about really don't

1252
00:43:51,650 --> 00:43:49,740
know so I get I get I don't get confused

1253
00:43:54,230 --> 00:43:51,660
but I get hung up on

1254
00:43:55,910 --> 00:43:54,240
abductions are they really I think some

1255
00:43:57,890 --> 00:43:55,920
abductions are these interdimensionals

1256
00:44:00,050 --> 00:43:57,900
making it look like a physical abduction

1257
00:44:02,210 --> 00:44:00,060
whether it's technology I don't know how

1258
00:44:03,770 --> 00:44:02,220
they do it slide nine activity slide 9

1259
00:44:05,870 --> 00:44:03,780
abilities

1260
00:44:08,510 --> 00:44:05,880
um being able to cognitively interface

1261
00:44:10,550 --> 00:44:08,520
with us but maybe there's also ETS that

1262
00:44:12,890 --> 00:44:10,560
are doing it too because I think it was

1263
00:44:14,750 --> 00:44:12,900
John lamb lash who wrote In His Image he

1264
00:44:16,490 --> 00:44:14,760
talks about how these beings archon

1265
00:44:17,930 --> 00:44:16,500
slash these interdimensionals all the

1266
00:44:21,410 --> 00:44:17,940
same thing and maybe there are different

1267
00:44:23,809 --> 00:44:21,420
groups but how they they really love to

1268
00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:23,819
engage in mimicry they'll do something

1269
00:44:28,250 --> 00:44:26,400
that already exists and then they'll do

1270
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:28,260
it too just just to throw people off

1271
00:44:32,329 --> 00:44:30,480
wait a second was that extraterrestrial

1272
00:44:33,470 --> 00:44:32,339
was it physical was it non-physical is

1273
00:44:35,630 --> 00:44:33,480
it interdimensional is it black

1274
00:44:37,730 --> 00:44:35,640
technology and basically well we'll all

1275
00:44:39,230 --> 00:44:37,740
debate it for the next 30 years because

1276
00:44:41,690 --> 00:44:39,240
there's enough there

1277
00:44:43,010 --> 00:44:41,700
for everybody to have the discussion and

1278
00:44:45,349 --> 00:44:43,020
everybody to make their points and

1279
00:44:47,450 --> 00:44:45,359
meanwhile we never come to a conclusion

1280
00:44:48,770 --> 00:44:47,460
a friend of mine my friend who I who I

1281
00:44:50,329 --> 00:44:48,780
interviewed for my Twitter yesterday who

1282
00:44:51,650 --> 00:44:50,339
I stayed with in La he's the one that

1283
00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:51,660
brought up he's like yeah they'll give

1284
00:44:56,450 --> 00:44:54,000
you enough just so the conversation goes

1285
00:44:58,190 --> 00:44:56,460
around and around and around and John

1286
00:45:00,349 --> 00:44:58,200
lamb lash is like that's what they do

1287
00:45:03,530 --> 00:45:00,359
they're not creative beings they could

1288
00:45:05,030 --> 00:45:03,540
just they just mimic stuff and confuse

1289
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:05,040
and I've used the word misdirection

1290
00:45:10,010 --> 00:45:07,920
other people have used misdirection

1291
00:45:11,329 --> 00:45:10,020
um making it look extraterrestrial so

1292
00:45:13,010 --> 00:45:11,339
we're looking out there meanwhile

1293
00:45:14,569 --> 00:45:13,020
they're here yeah they're doing what

1294
00:45:16,490 --> 00:45:14,579
they do so

1295
00:45:19,130 --> 00:45:16,500
now I've come across the review show a

1296
00:45:21,290 --> 00:45:19,140
few times and I've kind of I'd be like

1297
00:45:23,150 --> 00:45:21,300
that's a big rabbit hole that I'd never

1298
00:45:26,270 --> 00:45:23,160
go around to sort of jumping into it but

1299
00:45:28,069 --> 00:45:26,280
you know maybe he's very very Christian

1300
00:45:29,990 --> 00:45:28,079
and I am not very Christian although I

1301
00:45:31,790 --> 00:45:30,000
grew up Catholic and then went to born

1302
00:45:32,329 --> 00:45:31,800
again Christian Church

1303
00:45:35,150 --> 00:45:32,339
um

1304
00:45:36,710 --> 00:45:35,160
but a lot of what he says you know I'm

1305
00:45:37,970 --> 00:45:36,720
open to it I was trying to interview him

1306
00:45:40,250 --> 00:45:37,980
I have not been able to contact him

1307
00:45:42,050 --> 00:45:40,260
recently hopefully he's okay

1308
00:45:43,790 --> 00:45:42,060
so yeah I know for a lot of people a lot

1309
00:45:45,710 --> 00:45:43,800
of this stuff it's um

1310
00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:45,720
Bill Bankston who does healing of mice

1311
00:45:49,069 --> 00:45:47,280
with his technique which I'm going to

1312
00:45:50,870 --> 00:45:49,079
interview on November 1st he talks about

1313
00:45:52,130 --> 00:45:50,880
the Boggle Factor so there's a certain

1314
00:45:53,990 --> 00:45:52,140
level

1315
00:45:55,849 --> 00:45:54,000
Bigfoot people will get to a certain

1316
00:45:58,190 --> 00:45:55,859
level like yeah Bigfoot is real and then

1317
00:46:00,890 --> 00:45:58,200
you say what about psychic Bigfoot nope

1318
00:46:02,870 --> 00:46:00,900
nope nope nope so it's like that with

1319
00:46:04,250 --> 00:46:02,880
everything they talk about that in Hunt

1320
00:46:05,750 --> 00:46:04,260
for the skin walker too in the book

1321
00:46:07,609 --> 00:46:05,760
there's a level so everybody has their

1322
00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:07,619
comfort level and once you go past it

1323
00:46:13,010 --> 00:46:11,040
people will turn off I don't have that I

1324
00:46:14,150 --> 00:46:13,020
don't have that it's like obviously some

1325
00:46:16,490 --> 00:46:14,160
stuff I'm like

1326
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:16,500
that sounds ridiculous I'll keep it over

1327
00:46:19,970 --> 00:46:18,240
here for now

1328
00:46:22,069 --> 00:46:19,980
um especially some of the

1329
00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:22,079
I forget the guy's name Randy Kramer

1330
00:46:27,230 --> 00:46:24,720
talks about mantis beings and reptilians

1331
00:46:29,809 --> 00:46:27,240
fighting on Mars that's like all right I

1332
00:46:32,990 --> 00:46:29,819
don't think that's the case or there's

1333
00:46:34,970 --> 00:46:33,000
supposedly a portal in in El Segundo

1334
00:46:36,650 --> 00:46:34,980
California where you can just transfer

1335
00:46:38,569 --> 00:46:36,660
over to another planet I'm like all

1336
00:46:40,730 --> 00:46:38,579
right I hope that's true I don't think

1337
00:46:42,589 --> 00:46:40,740
it is it's a little too far out for me

1338
00:46:43,849 --> 00:46:42,599
and I'll keep that way over there just

1339
00:46:46,190 --> 00:46:43,859
in the back of my mind I think it's

1340
00:46:47,329 --> 00:46:46,200
nonsense but you never know no of course

1341
00:46:49,309 --> 00:46:47,339
of course

1342
00:46:50,329 --> 00:46:49,319
um before we get into The Reincarnation

1343
00:46:52,069 --> 00:46:50,339
again

1344
00:46:55,010 --> 00:46:52,079
um I'd just like to touch upon briefly

1345
00:46:57,170 --> 00:46:55,020
the recent James Fox documentary moment

1346
00:46:59,270 --> 00:46:57,180
of contact that came out yesterday I

1347
00:47:01,370 --> 00:46:59,280
believe it was yeah yesterday now I was

1348
00:47:02,930 --> 00:47:01,380
lucky enough to see an early edit of it

1349
00:47:03,829 --> 00:47:02,940
oh I'm going back two or three months

1350
00:47:07,670 --> 00:47:03,839
now

1351
00:47:10,910 --> 00:47:07,680
really well laid out case and then watch

1352
00:47:12,770 --> 00:47:10,920
the the final product and you know for

1353
00:47:14,569 --> 00:47:12,780
me you'll get no complaints from me

1354
00:47:16,670 --> 00:47:14,579
really on James Fox I think it lays out

1355
00:47:18,890 --> 00:47:16,680
the case well do I think it progresses

1356
00:47:21,710 --> 00:47:18,900
the case any further unfortunately not

1357
00:47:22,730 --> 00:47:21,720
but in know let me let me hear your

1358
00:47:24,410 --> 00:47:22,740
thoughts on it because I know you went

1359
00:47:26,750 --> 00:47:24,420
to the premiere yeah I went to the

1360
00:47:28,069 --> 00:47:26,760
premiere in LA and I I drove and when I

1361
00:47:30,109 --> 00:47:28,079
got there I picked up my friend and when

1362
00:47:31,490 --> 00:47:30,119
I got to the movie I was tired so I was

1363
00:47:34,250 --> 00:47:31,500
I was falling asleep throughout the

1364
00:47:36,290 --> 00:47:34,260
entire thing luckily I did not snore

1365
00:47:38,390 --> 00:47:36,300
because I asked my friend I'm like did I

1366
00:47:41,270 --> 00:47:38,400
snore he's like no I'm not good

1367
00:47:43,790 --> 00:47:41,280
um so I liked it but

1368
00:47:46,309 --> 00:47:43,800
it was too many Talking Heads for me and

1369
00:47:47,930 --> 00:47:46,319
being so tired I need to watch it again

1370
00:47:50,690 --> 00:47:47,940
um I love that they went to the alleged

1371
00:47:52,490 --> 00:47:50,700
craft site and crash site and I'm sorry

1372
00:47:54,410 --> 00:47:52,500
if people haven't seen it but the

1373
00:47:56,930 --> 00:47:54,420
witness believes this was the crash site

1374
00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:56,940
so it was emotional and new interviews

1375
00:47:59,870 --> 00:47:58,319
with people and then another guy

1376
00:48:01,970 --> 00:47:59,880
claiming he's gonna shoot them if they

1377
00:48:04,190 --> 00:48:01,980
don't get off his property

1378
00:48:06,230 --> 00:48:04,200
um things I wanted to see I wanted to

1379
00:48:07,970 --> 00:48:06,240
see them investigate the property the

1380
00:48:10,130 --> 00:48:07,980
land see if they could find any

1381
00:48:12,170 --> 00:48:10,140
materials any radiation anything like

1382
00:48:13,790 --> 00:48:12,180
that but I mean you know I I realize

1383
00:48:15,470 --> 00:48:13,800
funding is limited and I'll have to go

1384
00:48:17,390 --> 00:48:15,480
back and do that and it's it's the first

1385
00:48:19,130 --> 00:48:17,400
step for the movie

1386
00:48:21,290 --> 00:48:19,140
um on Twitter I said I was a little

1387
00:48:22,490 --> 00:48:21,300
bored I was because Talking Heads you

1388
00:48:24,589 --> 00:48:22,500
know it's like there's only so many

1389
00:48:26,690 --> 00:48:24,599
Talking Heads I can see and I know James

1390
00:48:29,450 --> 00:48:26,700
is limited and I love James Fox I love

1391
00:48:32,450 --> 00:48:29,460
his work he's one of the best things in

1392
00:48:33,710 --> 00:48:32,460
this field you know so I'm not down on

1393
00:48:35,569 --> 00:48:33,720
him at all and I know people probably

1394
00:48:36,829 --> 00:48:35,579
don't like that I'm not raving about the

1395
00:48:40,069 --> 00:48:36,839
movie but I think it's important

1396
00:48:41,630 --> 00:48:40,079
especially historical whatever that is I

1397
00:48:44,030 --> 00:48:41,640
don't know if it was an extra Crush real

1398
00:48:46,370 --> 00:48:44,040
craft with a being that was in trouble

1399
00:48:47,930 --> 00:48:46,380
and you know like oh my God this little

1400
00:48:48,890 --> 00:48:47,940
being he needs help I don't know if

1401
00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:48,900
that's the case or if that was

1402
00:48:53,089 --> 00:48:50,640
propaganda from the interdimensional

1403
00:48:54,349 --> 00:48:53,099
thing because somebody said today in the

1404
00:48:56,270 --> 00:48:54,359
movie they brought it up it smelled like

1405
00:48:58,670 --> 00:48:56,280
sulfur you look there's so many cases

1406
00:49:01,730 --> 00:48:58,680
like that related to sulfur somebody

1407
00:49:03,589 --> 00:49:01,740
said in the Bible the word Brimstone is

1408
00:49:05,210 --> 00:49:03,599
sulfur it's like the smell of sulfur or

1409
00:49:08,450 --> 00:49:05,220
the sulfur you look at it it's

1410
00:49:10,670 --> 00:49:08,460
everywhere so and there's stuff from the

1411
00:49:12,410 --> 00:49:10,680
Lord that's not positive there's a lot

1412
00:49:14,089 --> 00:49:12,420
of negativity there so it might be

1413
00:49:16,309 --> 00:49:14,099
connected to that interdimensional thing

1414
00:49:18,109 --> 00:49:16,319
what we talk about interdimensional

1415
00:49:20,750 --> 00:49:18,119
Force intelligence

1416
00:49:23,150 --> 00:49:20,760
so but that's a theory so am I open to

1417
00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:23,160
it being an extraterrestrial craft I am

1418
00:49:27,410 --> 00:49:25,200
you know it starts off the movie starts

1419
00:49:29,690 --> 00:49:27,420
off with supposedly NORAD you know

1420
00:49:31,370 --> 00:49:29,700
warned Brazil about this that you have a

1421
00:49:34,190 --> 00:49:31,380
craft coming in

1422
00:49:35,990 --> 00:49:34,200
um so yeah more I don't know we even if

1423
00:49:38,510 --> 00:49:36,000
we get video or pictures that he's

1424
00:49:39,890 --> 00:49:38,520
trying to get he said a lot of money has

1425
00:49:41,870 --> 00:49:39,900
been offered for that but they've

1426
00:49:43,550 --> 00:49:41,880
rejected it he said that in the Q a and

1427
00:49:44,930 --> 00:49:43,560
he said it on interviews

1428
00:49:46,609 --> 00:49:44,940
how are we going to confirm that that's

1429
00:49:48,650 --> 00:49:46,619
even authentic how do you know it's like

1430
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:48,660
it may look amazing I'm like there it is

1431
00:49:52,910 --> 00:49:50,640
it's got red eyes the three claws

1432
00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:52,920
whatever it was

1433
00:49:55,849 --> 00:49:54,480
um how do we confirm that how do you

1434
00:49:57,530 --> 00:49:55,859
authenticate something like that you

1435
00:49:58,970 --> 00:49:57,540
know yeah absolutely I mean he was on an

1436
00:50:00,829 --> 00:49:58,980
interview well two or three hours ago

1437
00:50:04,510 --> 00:50:00,839
with Max Moskowitz which I watched and

1438
00:50:08,210 --> 00:50:04,520
yeah he's like 99.9 convinced that

1439
00:50:10,430 --> 00:50:08,220
videos and photos do exist and you know

1440
00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:10,440
his confidence is obviously very clear

1441
00:50:15,230 --> 00:50:12,960
and very high and yeah he he did say

1442
00:50:16,190 --> 00:50:15,240
there's a a big amount of money so you

1443
00:50:17,809 --> 00:50:16,200
know

1444
00:50:19,550 --> 00:50:17,819
he was hesitant in parts of the

1445
00:50:21,530 --> 00:50:19,560
interviews but as well about what he

1446
00:50:23,690 --> 00:50:21,540
wanted to say you could see he wanted to

1447
00:50:25,490 --> 00:50:23,700
say more but so I think it'll be

1448
00:50:27,650 --> 00:50:25,500
interesting to see where that story goes

1449
00:50:29,690 --> 00:50:27,660
but hopefully we'll get more on that

1450
00:50:32,270 --> 00:50:29,700
case and it's not just his documentary

1451
00:50:34,010 --> 00:50:32,280
end of right on to the next thing so

1452
00:50:35,690 --> 00:50:34,020
great yeah it's a great first step and

1453
00:50:37,190 --> 00:50:35,700
something that would be important if it

1454
00:50:38,809 --> 00:50:37,200
wasn't just a being but if it was the

1455
00:50:41,510 --> 00:50:38,819
being and the military people who you

1456
00:50:43,490 --> 00:50:41,520
could see and and identify that would be

1457
00:50:45,170 --> 00:50:43,500
huge and then you could talk to those

1458
00:50:47,450 --> 00:50:45,180
folks and if they say yeah I was there

1459
00:50:49,849 --> 00:50:47,460
that's the being

1460
00:50:52,190 --> 00:50:49,859
um you know then we had the guy who died

1461
00:50:54,109 --> 00:50:52,200
yeah from being too close that for me

1462
00:50:56,210 --> 00:50:54,119
suggests something extraterrestrial that

1463
00:50:57,710 --> 00:50:56,220
he had an interaction with you know

1464
00:50:59,630 --> 00:50:57,720
but

1465
00:51:01,790 --> 00:50:59,640
I and I know people think it's a major

1466
00:51:04,250 --> 00:51:01,800
strap in a stretch and me being cynical

1467
00:51:06,710 --> 00:51:04,260
by saying it might not be E.T it might

1468
00:51:08,510 --> 00:51:06,720
be some sort of and let me just preface

1469
00:51:10,430 --> 00:51:08,520
that John Alexander talked about

1470
00:51:12,410 --> 00:51:10,440
Skinwalker Ranch and this intelligence

1471
00:51:14,750 --> 00:51:12,420
having a precognitive sentience

1472
00:51:16,430 --> 00:51:14,760
phenomena means basically it would be

1473
00:51:18,349 --> 00:51:16,440
always one step ahead it knew what was

1474
00:51:21,290 --> 00:51:18,359
coming John Keel says they know the past

1475
00:51:24,530 --> 00:51:21,300
present and future so I don't know who

1476
00:51:26,270 --> 00:51:24,540
it was I think or here we go the Linda

1477
00:51:29,809 --> 00:51:26,280
Moulton Howe the writers from the dod

1478
00:51:31,549 --> 00:51:29,819
told Bosh boshay that don't even put it

1479
00:51:33,589 --> 00:51:31,559
Beyond these beings to actually put

1480
00:51:35,870 --> 00:51:33,599
stuff in the past knowing that in the

1481
00:51:37,010 --> 00:51:35,880
future it's going to be referred to if

1482
00:51:40,130 --> 00:51:37,020
they're trying to trick us meaning

1483
00:51:41,930 --> 00:51:40,140
ancient maybe someranian the stories

1484
00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:41,940
about these beings coming down it might

1485
00:51:46,730 --> 00:51:43,440
have been planted

1486
00:51:48,829 --> 00:51:46,740
to be brought up now you know hundreds

1487
00:51:50,210 --> 00:51:48,839
of years later or in the case of Brazil

1488
00:51:52,069 --> 00:51:50,220
96

1489
00:51:53,750 --> 00:51:52,079
so people can look back and say oh yeah

1490
00:51:55,849 --> 00:51:53,760
it's it's extraterrestrial all those

1491
00:51:57,770 --> 00:51:55,859
poor little beings so it's propaganda

1492
00:51:59,329 --> 00:51:57,780
misdirection that's that needs to be

1493
00:52:00,770 --> 00:51:59,339
part of the story

1494
00:52:03,230 --> 00:52:00,780
um when you hear it from several places

1495
00:52:04,670 --> 00:52:03,240
so yeah that's that's I just want to

1496
00:52:06,890 --> 00:52:04,680
keep my mind open to that possibility

1497
00:52:08,809 --> 00:52:06,900
yeah I agree completely and for everyone

1498
00:52:10,849 --> 00:52:08,819
watching or listening please do go out

1499
00:52:13,010 --> 00:52:10,859
and support James and his work it is a

1500
00:52:13,970 --> 00:52:13,020
great piece of work uh it's a it's a

1501
00:52:16,910 --> 00:52:13,980
very compelling case the witness

1502
00:52:21,170 --> 00:52:16,920
testimony is great so let's hope we hear

1503
00:52:23,530 --> 00:52:21,180
more on that story right Joe

1504
00:52:26,450 --> 00:52:23,540
let's jump into the the

1505
00:52:28,609 --> 00:52:26,460
reincarnation and that kind of this is a

1506
00:52:32,829 --> 00:52:28,619
side of things that I've never really I

1507
00:52:41,710 --> 00:52:34,990
hold on

1508
00:52:45,770 --> 00:52:43,970
[Laughter]

1509
00:52:47,569 --> 00:52:45,780
oh that's funny I've still got a load of

1510
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:47,579
you guys questions lined up as well they

1511
00:52:50,870 --> 00:52:48,960
were coming in thick and fast at one

1512
00:52:53,329 --> 00:52:50,880
point I'll try and get to them all but I

1513
00:52:55,250 --> 00:52:53,339
can't make any promises sorry no no it's

1514
00:52:58,910 --> 00:52:55,260
all good that's all good so yeah you

1515
00:53:01,549 --> 00:52:58,920
know reincarnation afterlife near-death

1516
00:53:03,410 --> 00:53:01,559
experiences are they all kind of in that

1517
00:53:05,329 --> 00:53:03,420
same realm connected in some way like

1518
00:53:07,730 --> 00:53:05,339
where does one start with that kind of

1519
00:53:09,170 --> 00:53:07,740
thing so

1520
00:53:11,930 --> 00:53:09,180
um I'm trying to think when I first read

1521
00:53:13,030 --> 00:53:11,940
Many Lives Many Masters by Brian weissu

1522
00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:13,040
he was a

1523
00:53:18,589 --> 00:53:15,839
psychiatrist I think who was

1524
00:53:20,270 --> 00:53:18,599
he was he was regressing his patients

1525
00:53:21,829 --> 00:53:20,280
who were having phobias and issues in

1526
00:53:23,690 --> 00:53:21,839
our lives and then

1527
00:53:25,430 --> 00:53:23,700
he noticed some of them were jumping

1528
00:53:27,109 --> 00:53:25,440
back to previous lives which he wasn't

1529
00:53:28,849 --> 00:53:27,119
interested in but he just went with it

1530
00:53:31,790 --> 00:53:28,859
and he noticed when they were talking

1531
00:53:33,230 --> 00:53:31,800
about it it would resolve their issues I

1532
00:53:35,990 --> 00:53:33,240
think there was one case he was able to

1533
00:53:37,549 --> 00:53:36,000
verify one person maybe that they

1534
00:53:38,690 --> 00:53:37,559
claimed to have been because that's a

1535
00:53:40,609 --> 00:53:38,700
big issue it was like how do you even

1536
00:53:43,250 --> 00:53:40,619
prove that this person was that person

1537
00:53:44,450 --> 00:53:43,260
who they claimed to be that book wasn't

1538
00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:44,460
about that

1539
00:53:49,069 --> 00:53:46,079
um then I read some other books life

1540
00:53:51,230 --> 00:53:49,079
between life about what goes on in

1541
00:53:53,569 --> 00:53:51,240
between lives and how you plan it you

1542
00:53:55,549 --> 00:53:53,579
come in here and you you're going to

1543
00:53:57,530 --> 00:53:55,559
play a role and you agree to come here

1544
00:53:59,630 --> 00:53:57,540
so that's kind of very common in the New

1545
00:54:02,270 --> 00:53:59,640
Age field and then at some point I read

1546
00:54:03,650 --> 00:54:02,280
Ian Stevenson's work he investigated 3

1547
00:54:05,390 --> 00:54:03,660
000 children's cases where the kids

1548
00:54:07,670 --> 00:54:05,400
anyway they're like two to five years

1549
00:54:09,109 --> 00:54:07,680
old they're like when they first start

1550
00:54:11,089 --> 00:54:09,119
to speak and put sentences together

1551
00:54:13,609 --> 00:54:11,099
they're saying you're not my father

1552
00:54:15,170 --> 00:54:13,619
you're not my mother my real parents are

1553
00:54:17,030 --> 00:54:15,180
so and so and they'll name them and

1554
00:54:18,410 --> 00:54:17,040
they'll even name the town eventually

1555
00:54:19,910 --> 00:54:18,420
the parents will give in they'll take

1556
00:54:22,130 --> 00:54:19,920
them to the town and they'll meet the

1557
00:54:24,770 --> 00:54:22,140
family this kid said he was reincarnated

1558
00:54:26,329 --> 00:54:24,780
from he was in this past life and

1559
00:54:28,309 --> 00:54:26,339
they'll name all the family members

1560
00:54:29,690 --> 00:54:28,319
they'll have details there's no way the

1561
00:54:30,829 --> 00:54:29,700
child should have known or could have

1562
00:54:33,230 --> 00:54:30,839
known

1563
00:54:37,370 --> 00:54:33,240
um there was one great case where this

1564
00:54:38,990 --> 00:54:37,380
kid this girl said that this guy and

1565
00:54:41,809 --> 00:54:39,000
older guy was her husband in her

1566
00:54:43,609 --> 00:54:41,819
previous life and then she met him and

1567
00:54:44,809 --> 00:54:43,619
she's and he's told her that he had

1568
00:54:48,290 --> 00:54:44,819
remarried

1569
00:54:51,349 --> 00:54:48,300
and she said you told me you would never

1570
00:54:53,329 --> 00:54:51,359
love anybody else how could you remarry

1571
00:54:54,410 --> 00:54:53,339
and the guy was so devastated he goes I

1572
00:54:55,849 --> 00:54:54,420
can't meet with her again you can't

1573
00:54:57,829 --> 00:54:55,859
bring her again it's just too difficult

1574
00:54:59,270 --> 00:54:57,839
stories like that there's a lot of those

1575
00:55:01,549 --> 00:54:59,280
stories um

1576
00:55:03,829 --> 00:55:01,559
so like over 3 000 cases like that he

1577
00:55:05,690 --> 00:55:03,839
traveled all over the world Jim Tucker

1578
00:55:07,329 --> 00:55:05,700
he died but Jim Tucker took up his work

1579
00:55:09,650 --> 00:55:07,339
it was at the University of Virginia

1580
00:55:11,329 --> 00:55:09,660
somebody I forget if it was related to

1581
00:55:13,910 --> 00:55:11,339
IBM but somebody who had a lot of money

1582
00:55:15,290 --> 00:55:13,920
left an endowment for them to do this

1583
00:55:17,750 --> 00:55:15,300
research so that's how they were able to

1584
00:55:19,490 --> 00:55:17,760
do it so that paid for salaries and he

1585
00:55:21,470 --> 00:55:19,500
was able to travel around he was always

1586
00:55:23,270 --> 00:55:21,480
like this doesn't prove reincarnation

1587
00:55:25,130 --> 00:55:23,280
but it's very consistent with what you

1588
00:55:27,770 --> 00:55:25,140
would expect if reincarnation is real

1589
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:27,780
this this goes towards that but then you

1590
00:55:32,390 --> 00:55:30,240
add in biological cases there are

1591
00:55:34,370 --> 00:55:32,400
children when they verif they go to

1592
00:55:36,290 --> 00:55:34,380
verify this other person who they claim

1593
00:55:38,510 --> 00:55:36,300
to have been in the past life

1594
00:55:40,910 --> 00:55:38,520
as an example this person and most of

1595
00:55:43,670 --> 00:55:40,920
these kids you remember there they died

1596
00:55:45,410 --> 00:55:43,680
in a violent death right the majority

1597
00:55:46,790 --> 00:55:45,420
are violent that somehow that those

1598
00:55:48,589 --> 00:55:46,800
cases are remembered these children

1599
00:55:50,930 --> 00:55:48,599
remember it and there's cases where the

1600
00:55:54,349 --> 00:55:50,940
person the the previous personality

1601
00:55:56,329 --> 00:55:54,359
was shot in the head so here's the entry

1602
00:55:59,030 --> 00:55:56,339
Moon here's the exit wound they were

1603
00:56:01,370 --> 00:55:59,040
able to get autopsies not in every case

1604
00:56:03,530 --> 00:56:01,380
in the new Kid the new reincarnation

1605
00:56:04,670 --> 00:56:03,540
kids got a birthmark here and a

1606
00:56:06,950 --> 00:56:04,680
birthmark here

1607
00:56:09,589 --> 00:56:06,960
or in the previous life the kid lost an

1608
00:56:11,930 --> 00:56:09,599
arm in the new life he's got a stub of

1609
00:56:14,329 --> 00:56:11,940
an arm so somehow it transfers over

1610
00:56:16,970 --> 00:56:14,339
that's he has an entire book about the

1611
00:56:17,930 --> 00:56:16,980
biological evidence that's really

1612
00:56:19,370 --> 00:56:17,940
impressive

1613
00:56:21,470 --> 00:56:19,380
um like I said that's why you see

1614
00:56:23,569 --> 00:56:21,480
Psychology today and Scientific American

1615
00:56:25,430 --> 00:56:23,579
looking at those willing to take an

1616
00:56:27,470 --> 00:56:25,440
article on about it because it's so

1617
00:56:29,030 --> 00:56:27,480
impressive it's like this surely looks

1618
00:56:32,030 --> 00:56:29,040
like reincarnation and The Reincarnation

1619
00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:32,040
took place in the same area

1620
00:56:36,530 --> 00:56:34,079
um not far away they were reincarnating

1621
00:56:38,630 --> 00:56:36,540
and then within a drive you know an hour

1622
00:56:40,130 --> 00:56:38,640
or two I'm not sure exactly when and

1623
00:56:43,010 --> 00:56:40,140
something else there did not seem to be

1624
00:56:44,270 --> 00:56:43,020
anything karma karma doesn't seem to be

1625
00:56:46,250 --> 00:56:44,280
a thing it just seems like some

1626
00:56:47,870 --> 00:56:46,260
biological physical process that takes

1627
00:56:50,150 --> 00:56:47,880
place

1628
00:56:51,890 --> 00:56:50,160
um and you always hear well

1629
00:56:53,450 --> 00:56:51,900
we come back because we have to learn

1630
00:56:55,970 --> 00:56:53,460
lessons we're going to stay here until

1631
00:56:57,230 --> 00:56:55,980
we learn our lessons and I don't know if

1632
00:56:58,670 --> 00:56:57,240
it ever I don't know if I ever

1633
00:56:59,750 --> 00:56:58,680
questioned that until recently I heard

1634
00:57:01,849 --> 00:56:59,760
somebody bring it up it might have been

1635
00:57:04,609 --> 00:57:01,859
Ike with somebody else now I'm like it

1636
00:57:06,290 --> 00:57:04,619
makes no sense our memories are wiped we

1637
00:57:07,730 --> 00:57:06,300
have no knowledge except at the

1638
00:57:09,109 --> 00:57:07,740
childhood level and then we forget about

1639
00:57:11,210 --> 00:57:09,119
it as we get older what are we supposed

1640
00:57:13,130 --> 00:57:11,220
to learn what are we basing it now we

1641
00:57:14,510 --> 00:57:13,140
have nothing to base on anything and

1642
00:57:15,710 --> 00:57:14,520
we're like oh you can't have all of your

1643
00:57:17,329 --> 00:57:15,720
memories from these past lives you

1644
00:57:19,910 --> 00:57:17,339
wouldn't be able to handle it I don't

1645
00:57:22,370 --> 00:57:19,920
know if that's the case so the theory is

1646
00:57:24,650 --> 00:57:22,380
the theory is there's some sort of trap

1647
00:57:27,170 --> 00:57:24,660
put in place by some non-human Force to

1648
00:57:30,170 --> 00:57:27,180
make us keep coming back here

1649
00:57:31,730 --> 00:57:30,180
um because these beings need us over and

1650
00:57:33,829 --> 00:57:31,740
over for whatever reason whether it's

1651
00:57:35,510 --> 00:57:33,839
feeding off of our negativity they just

1652
00:57:36,950 --> 00:57:35,520
need us to keep Recycling and there's

1653
00:57:40,370 --> 00:57:36,960
some sort of Technology put in place

1654
00:57:41,630 --> 00:57:40,380
it's not a new idea I think John Lear

1655
00:57:43,490 --> 00:57:41,640
mentioned there was some sort of

1656
00:57:46,190 --> 00:57:43,500
soul-catching device on the moon and I

1657
00:57:48,710 --> 00:57:46,200
remember at the time I was like he is

1658
00:57:50,809 --> 00:57:48,720
crazy right so I'm not sure if I heard

1659
00:57:52,130 --> 00:57:50,819
it where else I heard it but then Ike is

1660
00:57:53,630 --> 00:57:52,140
talking about it there's another guy

1661
00:57:54,349 --> 00:57:53,640
talking about it

1662
00:57:56,329 --> 00:57:54,359
um

1663
00:57:57,950 --> 00:57:56,339
farsight Institute a remote viewing

1664
00:58:00,049 --> 00:57:57,960
group they talk about it their data is

1665
00:58:00,950 --> 00:58:00,059
coming in you can't verify this data

1666
00:58:03,170 --> 00:58:00,960
obviously

1667
00:58:05,510 --> 00:58:03,180
um they talk about death traps which is

1668
00:58:07,490 --> 00:58:05,520
really unpleasant it's basically

1669
00:58:08,990 --> 00:58:07,500
electrical shock just whatever they need

1670
00:58:11,150 --> 00:58:09,000
to do to make you forget before you're

1671
00:58:12,589 --> 00:58:11,160
sent back into the system and you hear

1672
00:58:13,609 --> 00:58:12,599
stories about near-death experiences

1673
00:58:15,890 --> 00:58:13,619
well

1674
00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:15,900
you know I was told I was I was met by

1675
00:58:21,290 --> 00:58:18,960
my relatives you know yeah they're going

1676
00:58:23,150 --> 00:58:21,300
to tell me and now it's not time or

1677
00:58:25,309 --> 00:58:23,160
reincarnation you hear people in their

1678
00:58:26,809 --> 00:58:25,319
hypnosis saying they they my Ralph has

1679
00:58:28,430 --> 00:58:26,819
met me and they told me where to go or

1680
00:58:31,190 --> 00:58:28,440
being of light said you need to go here

1681
00:58:33,230 --> 00:58:31,200
listen if if reincarnation if life after

1682
00:58:35,089 --> 00:58:33,240
death is real do we really need

1683
00:58:36,770 --> 00:58:35,099
directions on where to go in the

1684
00:58:38,450 --> 00:58:36,780
afterlife is it really that complicated

1685
00:58:41,030 --> 00:58:38,460
meaning it's like is it like this

1686
00:58:43,789 --> 00:58:41,040
massive Highway listen you're gonna get

1687
00:58:45,410 --> 00:58:43,799
lost so I'm here I'm your mom I'm gonna

1688
00:58:48,230 --> 00:58:45,420
show you which door to go through it

1689
00:58:49,910 --> 00:58:48,240
makes zero sense so I'm like it seems

1690
00:58:52,490 --> 00:58:49,920
like a lie it seems like misdirection

1691
00:58:53,930 --> 00:58:52,500
those beings Joe mcmonocle is a remote

1692
00:58:56,329 --> 00:58:53,940
viewer he had this

1693
00:58:58,670 --> 00:58:56,339
by location event where he saw his dad

1694
00:59:00,470 --> 00:58:58,680
on this UFO and he goes you're not my

1695
00:59:02,390 --> 00:59:00,480
dad he goes the guy wasn't acting

1696
00:59:03,289 --> 00:59:02,400
anything like my dad and he just popped

1697
00:59:04,609 --> 00:59:03,299
out

1698
00:59:07,250 --> 00:59:04,619
um it seems like whatever this is

1699
00:59:08,329 --> 00:59:07,260
engages in misdirection

1700
00:59:10,250 --> 00:59:08,339
um because they want us to keep coming

1701
00:59:13,789 --> 00:59:10,260
back here and then people are like but

1702
00:59:15,829 --> 00:59:13,799
that whole energy sucking energy is so

1703
00:59:17,030 --> 00:59:15,839
ridiculous right off the bat they'll

1704
00:59:19,250 --> 00:59:17,040
close their minds to the to The

1705
00:59:21,109 --> 00:59:19,260
Reincarnation trap idea

1706
00:59:22,430 --> 00:59:21,119
um but people talking about we have to

1707
00:59:23,809 --> 00:59:22,440
come back come back here and learn the

1708
00:59:25,970 --> 00:59:23,819
lessons it just doesn't sit right with

1709
00:59:28,130 --> 00:59:25,980
me um and I do think The Reincarnation

1710
00:59:30,650 --> 00:59:28,140
evidence is strong some people will say

1711
00:59:32,270 --> 00:59:30,660
well there's some other transfer ESP

1712
00:59:34,309 --> 00:59:32,280
somehow those kids are getting the

1713
00:59:35,630 --> 00:59:34,319
information about this other lifetime

1714
00:59:37,910 --> 00:59:35,640
it's coming through some other way but

1715
00:59:40,849 --> 00:59:37,920
then you have the biological evidence so

1716
00:59:42,950 --> 00:59:40,859
for me I do think I don't believe but

1717
00:59:45,410 --> 00:59:42,960
I'm really strong that reincarnation is

1718
00:59:47,990 --> 00:59:45,420
legit the whole trap thing I don't know

1719
00:59:49,549 --> 00:59:48,000
but it also it does make sense to me

1720
00:59:51,890 --> 00:59:49,559
um so that's kind of where I'm going

1721
00:59:53,870 --> 00:59:51,900
there and and like I said I did I've

1722
00:59:56,690 --> 00:59:53,880
asked about it privately and

1723
00:59:58,430 --> 00:59:56,700
it wasn't basically I did not get a

1724
00:59:59,930 --> 00:59:58,440
response that said you're way off Target

1725
01:00:02,030 --> 00:59:59,940
because I said am I deluding myself

1726
01:00:03,770 --> 01:00:02,040
really good source if I'm deluding

1727
01:00:05,630 --> 01:00:03,780
myself tell me and I won't waste my time

1728
01:00:07,190 --> 01:00:05,640
and that's not I did not get that

1729
01:00:10,670 --> 01:00:07,200
response back so

1730
01:00:12,049 --> 01:00:10,680
it was about reincarnation as a trap and

1731
01:00:14,930 --> 01:00:12,059
what was the other question I asked

1732
01:00:17,750 --> 01:00:14,940
where I I was told something I wasn't

1733
01:00:18,950 --> 01:00:17,760
told yes that's true but basically it's

1734
01:00:20,930 --> 01:00:18,960
been looked at I'm trying to think what

1735
01:00:22,490 --> 01:00:20,940
other what else I brought up and I can't

1736
01:00:24,890 --> 01:00:22,500
remember right now but

1737
01:00:26,510 --> 01:00:24,900
yeah if I if I do if somebody tells me

1738
01:00:28,250 --> 01:00:26,520
you're deluding yourself and this is why

1739
01:00:30,349 --> 01:00:28,260
I will listen I'm like it's not the

1740
01:00:32,089 --> 01:00:30,359
first time I have deluded myself Vinnie

1741
01:00:34,789 --> 01:00:32,099
it wasn't with the UFOs it's a long

1742
01:00:36,890 --> 01:00:34,799
story I told about on on Twitter so

1743
01:00:38,450 --> 01:00:36,900
it's it's not impossible but I don't

1744
01:00:40,609 --> 01:00:38,460
think that's the case here but I'm still

1745
01:00:41,750 --> 01:00:40,619
a little cautious and I'm really curious

1746
01:00:44,510 --> 01:00:41,760
to see what people are thinking they're

1747
01:00:46,069 --> 01:00:44,520
like what is he talking about do you

1748
01:00:47,329 --> 01:00:46,079
know what the comments seem really

1749
01:00:48,829 --> 01:00:47,339
positive one thing that you mentioned

1750
01:00:50,930 --> 01:00:48,839
there is about what doesn't make sense

1751
01:00:52,490 --> 01:00:50,940
is life lessons and if if the memory is

1752
01:00:53,750 --> 01:00:52,500
wiped so we come back then how are we

1753
01:00:55,789 --> 01:00:53,760
learning but could it could the

1754
01:00:57,230 --> 01:00:55,799
subconscious conscious connection play

1755
01:00:58,549 --> 01:00:57,240
into that that would maybe learning on a

1756
01:01:01,609 --> 01:00:58,559
subconscious level and building it

1757
01:01:03,530 --> 01:01:01,619
building up kind of as we're unaware and

1758
01:01:05,630 --> 01:01:03,540
maybe for some reason I don't know I'm

1759
01:01:08,630 --> 01:01:05,640
just throwing throwing ideas out there

1760
01:01:10,370 --> 01:01:08,640
it could be and um

1761
01:01:11,990 --> 01:01:10,380
and it's not the first time and also

1762
01:01:13,849 --> 01:01:12,000
there are other sources that say avoid

1763
01:01:16,309 --> 01:01:13,859
the light the light is a trick I've

1764
01:01:18,109 --> 01:01:16,319
heard it and I've had somebody privately

1765
01:01:19,549 --> 01:01:18,119
tell me the same thing another respected

1766
01:01:21,109 --> 01:01:19,559
same person is respected in this

1767
01:01:22,730 --> 01:01:21,119
community so

1768
01:01:24,349 --> 01:01:22,740
I don't know

1769
01:01:27,349 --> 01:01:24,359
how would you prove that as the question

1770
01:01:29,030 --> 01:01:27,359
I mean unless there's some technology if

1771
01:01:30,890 --> 01:01:29,040
we know and basically a lot of This

1772
01:01:32,510 --> 01:01:30,900
falls into a lot of some of the

1773
01:01:34,010 --> 01:01:32,520
researchers say

1774
01:01:36,770 --> 01:01:34,020
on this planet we're living in a

1775
01:01:39,170 --> 01:01:36,780
simulation that plays into that

1776
01:01:41,089 --> 01:01:39,180
um how far the simulation goes out when

1777
01:01:42,829 --> 01:01:41,099
did the simulation start I don't know

1778
01:01:44,569 --> 01:01:42,839
another thing how do you prove that I've

1779
01:01:46,069 --> 01:01:44,579
had like I've had sources behind the

1780
01:01:47,990 --> 01:01:46,079
scenes at least one source like no I

1781
01:01:50,450 --> 01:01:48,000
don't believe in the simulation

1782
01:01:51,349 --> 01:01:50,460
but yeah it's really hard to prove that

1783
01:01:55,430 --> 01:01:51,359
so

1784
01:01:57,230 --> 01:01:55,440
with Ike I I love his positive take

1785
01:01:58,849 --> 01:01:57,240
basically he's like no matter what they

1786
01:02:00,950 --> 01:01:58,859
throw at you no matter what negativity

1787
01:02:03,230 --> 01:02:00,960
he goes remember just remember who you

1788
01:02:04,730 --> 01:02:03,240
are and people don't realize this he

1789
01:02:06,230 --> 01:02:04,740
talks about being a powerful spiritual

1790
01:02:08,750 --> 01:02:06,240
being this is a this is a physical

1791
01:02:11,089 --> 01:02:08,760
experience you're so much more powerful

1792
01:02:13,010 --> 01:02:11,099
than you realize people have no idea how

1793
01:02:16,010 --> 01:02:13,020
powerful we are we're we're taught to

1794
01:02:18,109 --> 01:02:16,020
forget where Consciousness is just not

1795
01:02:19,490 --> 01:02:18,119
spoken about people who expand their

1796
01:02:21,530 --> 01:02:19,500
Consciousness with Ayahuasca or

1797
01:02:23,870 --> 01:02:21,540
mushrooms it's frowned upon he goes that

1798
01:02:25,730 --> 01:02:23,880
they don't want whoever's in control

1799
01:02:27,530 --> 01:02:25,740
whether it's non-human and humans they

1800
01:02:29,089 --> 01:02:27,540
do not want people to realize how

1801
01:02:31,010 --> 01:02:29,099
powerful humans are because if they do

1802
01:02:32,569 --> 01:02:31,020
the whole system comes crashing down and

1803
01:02:36,049 --> 01:02:32,579
that's why the secrecy and Desperation

1804
01:02:37,789 --> 01:02:36,059
to keep the secret because if let's say

1805
01:02:39,589 --> 01:02:37,799
this is a parasitic intelligence that

1806
01:02:42,170 --> 01:02:39,599
needs to survive that's another thing

1807
01:02:44,630 --> 01:02:42,180
people talk about demons no if it's a

1808
01:02:46,609 --> 01:02:44,640
parasite and Lou does have experience in

1809
01:02:48,950 --> 01:02:46,619
parasitology whether that's a

1810
01:02:50,930 --> 01:02:48,960
coincidence or not I'm I'm skeptical

1811
01:02:52,910 --> 01:02:50,940
that it's a coincidence that would that

1812
01:02:54,230 --> 01:02:52,920
would AI that would be one of the guys I

1813
01:02:55,670 --> 01:02:54,240
would bring in if that's part of his

1814
01:02:56,710 --> 01:02:55,680
resume

1815
01:02:59,390 --> 01:02:56,720
um

1816
01:03:02,210 --> 01:02:59,400
parasites need to survive they don't

1817
01:03:04,190 --> 01:03:02,220
probably do not look at it as evil it's

1818
01:03:06,470 --> 01:03:04,200
like just give me what I need I don't

1819
01:03:10,609 --> 01:03:06,480
care I survive on this if it's negative

1820
01:03:12,650 --> 01:03:10,619
energy so yeah not demonic although it

1821
01:03:14,329 --> 01:03:12,660
would come across as demonic uh

1822
01:03:16,190 --> 01:03:14,339
something I've never spoken about on a

1823
01:03:18,049 --> 01:03:16,200
show I I've had experience that would

1824
01:03:19,970 --> 01:03:18,059
seem demonic it was in

1825
01:03:22,430 --> 01:03:19,980
the summer when I was probably like

1826
01:03:23,690 --> 01:03:22,440
probably like 12 13 14 something like

1827
01:03:26,030 --> 01:03:23,700
that and I was sleeping in my parents

1828
01:03:27,349 --> 01:03:26,040
room with my sister because we had they

1829
01:03:28,730 --> 01:03:27,359
had the only air conditioning in the

1830
01:03:29,990 --> 01:03:28,740
house and it was summer and it was hot

1831
01:03:34,130 --> 01:03:30,000
in New York

1832
01:03:36,770 --> 01:03:34,140
and I heard an audible evil laugh I mean

1833
01:03:38,930 --> 01:03:36,780
it was it was loud first time I've ever

1834
01:03:41,390 --> 01:03:38,940
heard anything audible I've had my own

1835
01:03:42,950 --> 01:03:41,400
inner voice but this was Audible and it

1836
01:03:45,589 --> 01:03:42,960
was evil and it was a laugh I was like

1837
01:03:48,170 --> 01:03:45,599
what the hell is that so we're not going

1838
01:03:51,890 --> 01:03:48,180
into details my house was a house where

1839
01:03:53,630 --> 01:03:51,900
that might be very it might be very

1840
01:03:55,130 --> 01:03:53,640
attractive to some negative intelligence

1841
01:03:56,690 --> 01:03:55,140
I'll say that it's too personal to go

1842
01:03:58,849 --> 01:03:56,700
into on here

1843
01:04:01,069 --> 01:03:58,859
um trauma basically there was trauma in

1844
01:04:03,349 --> 01:04:01,079
my house uh one thing I could share I

1845
01:04:06,470 --> 01:04:03,359
might I've never shared this either when

1846
01:04:08,630 --> 01:04:06,480
I was before I was born my sister was

1847
01:04:10,490 --> 01:04:08,640
eight years old

1848
01:04:12,470 --> 01:04:10,500
mother driving with my electric sisters

1849
01:04:14,809 --> 01:04:12,480
also car gets stuck on the railroad

1850
01:04:16,730 --> 01:04:14,819
tracks kills my sister

1851
01:04:19,069 --> 01:04:16,740
yeah it's like before I was born her

1852
01:04:21,170 --> 01:04:19,079
name was Josephine I was born because of

1853
01:04:24,289 --> 01:04:21,180
that the priest who was on the train

1854
01:04:26,750 --> 01:04:24,299
told my parents he goes

1855
01:04:29,870 --> 01:04:26,760
he he counseled them afterwards luckily

1856
01:04:31,549 --> 01:04:29,880
he was there father Bruce I think

1857
01:04:33,049 --> 01:04:31,559
he goes uh

1858
01:04:35,569 --> 01:04:33,059
you should have another child this will

1859
01:04:38,750 --> 01:04:35,579
help you get over the loss of her

1860
01:04:40,730 --> 01:04:38,760
um so that's me that's how I was born so

1861
01:04:41,990 --> 01:04:40,740
it's like so there was trauma that

1862
01:04:44,329 --> 01:04:42,000
started there and then later on more

1863
01:04:45,950 --> 01:04:44,339
trauma so maybe if if beings Focus if

1864
01:04:47,870 --> 01:04:45,960
beings feed off of negativity and

1865
01:04:49,250 --> 01:04:47,880
traumas-like situation maybe that

1866
01:04:51,109 --> 01:04:49,260
attracted them my sister had an

1867
01:04:54,170 --> 01:04:51,119
experience too not good

1868
01:04:56,390 --> 01:04:54,180
um my middle sister I'm the youngest so

1869
01:04:57,950 --> 01:04:56,400
the youngest middle and then older so

1870
01:05:00,109 --> 01:04:57,960
yeah

1871
01:05:01,670 --> 01:05:00,119
um and I've had dreams of people dying

1872
01:05:03,349 --> 01:05:01,680
twice both of them happened I've had

1873
01:05:04,609 --> 01:05:03,359
stuff like that happen what is that I

1874
01:05:06,049 --> 01:05:04,619
don't know

1875
01:05:08,630 --> 01:05:06,059
um

1876
01:05:10,069 --> 01:05:08,640
I don't know where I was going but

1877
01:05:11,450 --> 01:05:10,079
where do we even start I don't know what

1878
01:05:13,130 --> 01:05:11,460
you asked but that's the thing it just

1879
01:05:15,589 --> 01:05:13,140
seems like that aspect of the phenomena

1880
01:05:17,630 --> 01:05:15,599
just you just go and go and go and break

1881
01:05:20,270 --> 01:05:17,640
off into all different branches of it I

1882
01:05:22,609 --> 01:05:20,280
mean where would you suggest anybody

1883
01:05:24,829 --> 01:05:22,619
start then if you know if I tomorrow's

1884
01:05:26,569 --> 01:05:24,839
was like right after what speaking to

1885
01:05:29,450 --> 01:05:26,579
Joe I want to look into reincarnation

1886
01:05:31,309 --> 01:05:29,460
where would I go first all right let me

1887
01:05:33,829 --> 01:05:31,319
just add one thing about um sure yeah

1888
01:05:35,930 --> 01:05:33,839
yeah reincarnation oh yeah

1889
01:05:39,470 --> 01:05:35,940
so my sister she was eight when she died

1890
01:05:42,170 --> 01:05:39,480
and so that was before I was born but

1891
01:05:44,150 --> 01:05:42,180
when I attended a metaphysical church

1892
01:05:46,069 --> 01:05:44,160
the Reverend who married my first wife

1893
01:05:47,930 --> 01:05:46,079
and I she's no longer here the Reverend

1894
01:05:49,549 --> 01:05:47,940
she would give readings on Wednesdays

1895
01:05:51,530 --> 01:05:49,559
we'd do psychic readings one question

1896
01:05:53,150 --> 01:05:51,540
raise money for the church

1897
01:05:54,890 --> 01:05:53,160
I had a reading with her private a

1898
01:05:57,109 --> 01:05:54,900
couple private readings and she did a

1899
01:05:59,329 --> 01:05:57,119
medium type reading and she brought she

1900
01:06:01,849 --> 01:05:59,339
goes I bring forth a little girl who's

1901
01:06:03,289 --> 01:06:01,859
appears to be eight years old she nailed

1902
01:06:04,430 --> 01:06:03,299
the date yeah that I don't remember what

1903
01:06:05,630 --> 01:06:04,440
other details so it was really

1904
01:06:07,549 --> 01:06:05,640
interesting

1905
01:06:08,809 --> 01:06:07,559
um whether or not she got it right guest

1906
01:06:09,890 --> 01:06:08,819
I don't know

1907
01:06:12,530 --> 01:06:09,900
um

1908
01:06:15,289 --> 01:06:12,540
reincarnation where to start

1909
01:06:16,910 --> 01:06:15,299
old souls by Tom Schroeder although you

1910
01:06:18,349 --> 01:06:16,920
can start on Washington The Washington

1911
01:06:20,030 --> 01:06:18,359
Post

1912
01:06:21,349 --> 01:06:20,040
I don't know if Tom Schroeder wrote the

1913
01:06:23,569 --> 01:06:21,359
article or somebody else wrote the

1914
01:06:26,870 --> 01:06:23,579
article it was Washington Post Magazine

1915
01:06:28,430 --> 01:06:26,880
they did a Sunday article on Ian

1916
01:06:30,109 --> 01:06:28,440
Stevenson's work it's a really good

1917
01:06:32,089 --> 01:06:30,119
place to start and I could tweet it out

1918
01:06:33,289 --> 01:06:32,099
later I'll find it I think it might be

1919
01:06:35,029 --> 01:06:33,299
good yeah I don't have the Washington

1920
01:06:36,650 --> 01:06:35,039
Post link but if somebody else put it on

1921
01:06:39,650 --> 01:06:36,660
and it makes it looks it shows you what

1922
01:06:41,210 --> 01:06:39,660
he did and how skeptical he was

1923
01:06:44,150 --> 01:06:41,220
um and also like I said the Scientific

1924
01:06:46,789 --> 01:06:44,160
American I'll read I'll retweet

1925
01:06:49,190 --> 01:06:46,799
and I'll tag you the Washington Post

1926
01:06:50,750 --> 01:06:49,200
article the Scientific American article

1927
01:06:52,609 --> 01:06:50,760
on the psychology today article and if

1928
01:06:53,870 --> 01:06:52,619
people like that they have Leslie Kane's

1929
01:06:55,849 --> 01:06:53,880
book which isn't focused on

1930
01:06:57,049 --> 01:06:55,859
reincarnation but she she deals with a

1931
01:06:58,789 --> 01:06:57,059
couple of cases and there are there's

1932
01:07:00,890 --> 01:06:58,799
one case where it seems like the

1933
01:07:02,210 --> 01:07:00,900
researcher was fooled but overall some

1934
01:07:04,430 --> 01:07:02,220
of these cases are really interesting

1935
01:07:06,230 --> 01:07:04,440
and then Tom I'm not sure if Tom

1936
01:07:07,910 --> 01:07:06,240
Schroeder followed up old souls with

1937
01:07:10,190 --> 01:07:07,920
another book if he has I need to get it

1938
01:07:11,690 --> 01:07:10,200
he's the one who took up the work of Ian

1939
01:07:14,329 --> 01:07:11,700
Stevenson so that's a good place as far

1940
01:07:15,230 --> 01:07:14,339
as a trap yeah I wouldn't even go there

1941
01:07:17,089 --> 01:07:15,240
yet

1942
01:07:18,529 --> 01:07:17,099
um Ike's book I recommended that

1943
01:07:20,089 --> 01:07:18,539
somebody who I saw in the chat I don't

1944
01:07:21,770 --> 01:07:20,099
know if she's still here Nora

1945
01:07:23,150 --> 01:07:21,780
I don't know if I would and I

1946
01:07:24,950 --> 01:07:23,160
recommended it to other people I don't

1947
01:07:26,390 --> 01:07:24,960
know if you really have to be open to

1948
01:07:27,710 --> 01:07:26,400
the conspiracy stuff otherwise you're

1949
01:07:29,630 --> 01:07:27,720
going to be bogged down right away

1950
01:07:32,089 --> 01:07:29,640
you're going to be like this is nonsense

1951
01:07:34,010 --> 01:07:32,099
but chapter six which I'm reading Now

1952
01:07:36,589 --> 01:07:34,020
talks about reality and the simulation

1953
01:07:38,029 --> 01:07:36,599
and it's really really good

1954
01:07:42,230 --> 01:07:38,039
um and it's like I said the message is

1955
01:07:44,390 --> 01:07:42,240
so positive from him about love about

1956
01:07:47,089 --> 01:07:44,400
infinite we're infinite beings people

1957
01:07:48,890 --> 01:07:47,099
don't realize that him I mean but I

1958
01:07:51,230 --> 01:07:48,900
caught his breakthrough it was a

1959
01:07:52,730 --> 01:07:51,240
download when he was in Peru

1960
01:07:54,589 --> 01:07:52,740
um basically the information came

1961
01:07:56,210 --> 01:07:54,599
through he's just standing there and it

1962
01:07:58,010 --> 01:07:56,220
just poured into him a download and then

1963
01:07:59,750 --> 01:07:58,020
he had another experience when he took

1964
01:08:01,849 --> 01:07:59,760
Ayahuasca and it was just he said it was

1965
01:08:03,890 --> 01:08:01,859
so impressive when he got home he had

1966
01:08:05,210 --> 01:08:03,900
all Total Recall of everything that they

1967
01:08:07,130 --> 01:08:05,220
told him it was basically about

1968
01:08:08,450 --> 01:08:07,140
simulation and stuff like that

1969
01:08:10,430 --> 01:08:08,460
um it was a woman's voice which it

1970
01:08:12,950 --> 01:08:10,440
usually is with Ayahuasca it's a female

1971
01:08:14,930 --> 01:08:12,960
Spirit yeah if it's a spirit it's a

1972
01:08:17,209 --> 01:08:14,940
female presence energy that comes

1973
01:08:18,769 --> 01:08:17,219
through in Ayahuasca I would love to do

1974
01:08:20,809 --> 01:08:18,779
Ayahuasca but I'm definitely scared

1975
01:08:23,870 --> 01:08:20,819
because you hear all the stories between

1976
01:08:25,249 --> 01:08:23,880
vomiting and diarrhea and and I have a

1977
01:08:27,769 --> 01:08:25,259
heart issue which is pretty good right

1978
01:08:28,430 --> 01:08:27,779
now I'm not sure if I should do that

1979
01:08:31,370 --> 01:08:28,440
um

1980
01:08:33,229 --> 01:08:31,380
and it lasts for like 12 hours and this

1981
01:08:35,390 --> 01:08:33,239
world totally disappears I just somebody

1982
01:08:36,650 --> 01:08:35,400
I worked with the other day uh randomly

1983
01:08:39,769 --> 01:08:36,660
we went out to lunch he's like yeah I

1984
01:08:42,050 --> 01:08:39,779
had I took Ayahuasca it was amazing and

1985
01:08:43,430 --> 01:08:42,060
yeah yeah I had the opportunity in

1986
01:08:45,410 --> 01:08:43,440
Colombia at the start of the year with

1987
01:08:47,570 --> 01:08:45,420
the shaman and

1988
01:08:50,269 --> 01:08:47,580
I didn't do it you know but the good

1989
01:08:51,890 --> 01:08:50,279
thing is when I when I didn't do it I

1990
01:08:53,390 --> 01:08:51,900
actually got to see the phenomena that

1991
01:08:55,729 --> 01:08:53,400
that what I was there for so it kind of

1992
01:08:56,930 --> 01:08:55,739
you know swings around about so it you

1993
01:08:59,510 --> 01:08:56,940
know it was all good it was worth it

1994
01:09:01,309 --> 01:08:59,520
it's a big step I mean that's a really

1995
01:09:03,229 --> 01:09:01,319
big step yeah absolutely talk about

1996
01:09:04,249 --> 01:09:03,239
mushrooms and stuff like that but this

1997
01:09:06,769 --> 01:09:04,259
ayahuasca

1998
01:09:08,150 --> 01:09:06,779
DMT if some there's a new DMT that

1999
01:09:10,010 --> 01:09:08,160
supposedly I forget what it's called but

2000
01:09:12,169 --> 01:09:10,020
Graham Hancock talks about it but that

2001
01:09:13,849 --> 01:09:12,179
lasts like 15 minutes so maybe uh maybe

2002
01:09:15,470 --> 01:09:13,859
I would consider doing that but I Alaska

2003
01:09:17,749 --> 01:09:15,480
12 hours

2004
01:09:20,269 --> 01:09:17,759
well if you have a bad trip and people

2005
01:09:22,010 --> 01:09:20,279
do have bad experiences yeah it lasts

2006
01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:22,020
for 12 hours so you're kind of screwed

2007
01:09:24,669 --> 01:09:23,759
for 12 hours

2008
01:09:29,269 --> 01:09:24,679
yeah

2009
01:09:32,030 --> 01:09:29,279
come on no there's um a woman here cat

2010
01:09:33,890 --> 01:09:32,040
Courtney that who was doing a lot of

2011
01:09:35,689 --> 01:09:33,900
Ceremonies around the United States and

2012
01:09:37,910 --> 01:09:35,699
that she got arrested for DMT

2013
01:09:40,849 --> 01:09:37,920
distribution which was total bogus but

2014
01:09:42,829 --> 01:09:40,859
she got an she got an A year probation

2015
01:09:44,450 --> 01:09:42,839
so she's just doing classes right now

2016
01:09:46,309 --> 01:09:44,460
amazing

2017
01:09:47,930 --> 01:09:46,319
Shaman if you want to not go to another

2018
01:09:49,189 --> 01:09:47,940
country although I don't think I don't

2019
01:09:51,229 --> 01:09:49,199
think she could do it here again she'll

2020
01:09:52,970 --> 01:09:51,239
have to go to Costa Rica and host it but

2021
01:09:57,169 --> 01:09:52,980
she's amazing from everything I know

2022
01:09:59,209 --> 01:09:57,179
about her amazing shaman foreign I'm

2023
01:10:02,450 --> 01:09:59,219
going back out to Colombia in February

2024
01:10:04,790 --> 01:10:02,460
March 23 so hey maybe I'll be

2025
01:10:07,250 --> 01:10:04,800
you know ready for it then I'll see I

2026
01:10:09,410 --> 01:10:07,260
just don't know until I'm there

2027
01:10:11,750 --> 01:10:09,420
um listen Joe Before I Let You Go I've

2028
01:10:14,930 --> 01:10:11,760
got a couple of questions here from uh

2029
01:10:17,689 --> 01:10:14,940
the viewers so your name asks Joe do you

2030
01:10:19,550 --> 01:10:17,699
think we will a will we do you think we

2031
01:10:21,290 --> 01:10:19,560
will be able to fully grasp the vastness

2032
01:10:23,990 --> 01:10:21,300
of the phenomena like really understand

2033
01:10:26,390 --> 01:10:24,000
it I don't know if the vastness of

2034
01:10:28,790 --> 01:10:26,400
everything because you know I've heard

2035
01:10:31,790 --> 01:10:28,800
about ET time travel interdimensional

2036
01:10:34,070 --> 01:10:31,800
Bigfoot I heard that behind the scene um

2037
01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:34,080
what I would love if if we're in a

2038
01:10:37,850 --> 01:10:36,000
simulation or if if there is a

2039
01:10:39,530 --> 01:10:37,860
reincarnation trap and we can somehow

2040
01:10:41,209 --> 01:10:39,540
and it's technological it's something

2041
01:10:44,270 --> 01:10:41,219
that we can break

2042
01:10:45,350 --> 01:10:44,280
that would be my first goal let's focus

2043
01:10:47,810 --> 01:10:45,360
on that

2044
01:10:50,030 --> 01:10:47,820
um and if there are humans that are

2045
01:10:51,350 --> 01:10:50,040
helping these interdimensional beings or

2046
01:10:53,450 --> 01:10:51,360
believe they're helping these

2047
01:10:55,189 --> 01:10:53,460
interdimensional beings and messing with

2048
01:10:57,590 --> 01:10:55,199
life on this planet

2049
01:10:59,990 --> 01:10:57,600
I don't know how we would actually stop

2050
01:11:01,610 --> 01:11:00,000
that but just to at least expose it that

2051
01:11:03,590 --> 01:11:01,620
it's going on and maybe some of them

2052
01:11:05,270 --> 01:11:03,600
have amazing technology

2053
01:11:05,810 --> 01:11:05,280
we didn't get into

2054
01:11:08,330 --> 01:11:05,820
um

2055
01:11:10,550 --> 01:11:08,340
you know if if they had a breakthrough I

2056
01:11:12,350 --> 01:11:10,560
don't know how we would battle that

2057
01:11:14,630 --> 01:11:12,360
um unless we have our own technology or

2058
01:11:17,330 --> 01:11:14,640
as a species

2059
01:11:19,010 --> 01:11:17,340
if there are ETS here or or ETS out

2060
01:11:20,750 --> 01:11:19,020
there I think as a species and I'm not

2061
01:11:23,450 --> 01:11:20,760
the first one to say this if we woke up

2062
01:11:25,250 --> 01:11:23,460
enough where we asked for help maybe we

2063
01:11:27,470 --> 01:11:25,260
can get help I don't think I don't think

2064
01:11:29,570 --> 01:11:27,480
somebody's gonna just step in right and

2065
01:11:31,430 --> 01:11:29,580
help us unless we ask for help more the

2066
01:11:33,709 --> 01:11:31,440
the non-interference Star Trek not

2067
01:11:35,450 --> 01:11:33,719
intervention type of thing

2068
01:11:38,390 --> 01:11:35,460
um I don't know how many people it would

2069
01:11:39,590 --> 01:11:38,400
take for us to be open to ask for that

2070
01:11:42,530 --> 01:11:39,600
to happen

2071
01:11:44,450 --> 01:11:42,540
and if ETS are here probably most of

2072
01:11:46,130 --> 01:11:44,460
them are indifferent

2073
01:11:49,430 --> 01:11:46,140
um probably some are negative some are

2074
01:11:51,229 --> 01:11:49,440
positive but as far as helping I I think

2075
01:11:53,330 --> 01:11:51,239
somebody mentioned to me privately that

2076
01:11:55,250 --> 01:11:53,340
they're going to keep hands off unless a

2077
01:11:58,610 --> 01:11:55,260
certain line is crossed what that line

2078
01:12:01,669 --> 01:11:58,620
is I don't know right yeah that makes

2079
01:12:03,290 --> 01:12:01,679
sense I guess uh red panda koala thank

2080
01:12:05,689 --> 01:12:03,300
you so much for the donation I really

2081
01:12:07,729 --> 01:12:05,699
appreciate it uh that's a great Point

2082
01:12:09,470 --> 01:12:07,739
actually he's asking uh if you get a

2083
01:12:11,990 --> 01:12:09,480
chance on Joe's Insider's thoughts on

2084
01:12:13,970 --> 01:12:12,000
Havana syndrome and anything on Chuck

2085
01:12:15,350 --> 01:12:13,980
Missler in the Collins Elite Scientology

2086
01:12:17,450 --> 01:12:15,360
influence so if you want to tackle any

2087
01:12:19,189 --> 01:12:17,460
of them before we finish that would be

2088
01:12:21,649 --> 01:12:19,199
cool I'll avoid Scientology only because

2089
01:12:23,330 --> 01:12:21,659
I know only because I don't know enough

2090
01:12:24,649 --> 01:12:23,340
to speak Scientology but I've had people

2091
01:12:27,050 --> 01:12:24,659
say you know what what you're talking

2092
01:12:28,010 --> 01:12:27,060
about now is Scientology and I avoid it

2093
01:12:29,870 --> 01:12:28,020
because I'm like okay I don't really

2094
01:12:32,330 --> 01:12:29,880
know what Scientology is I never studied

2095
01:12:33,590 --> 01:12:32,340
it yeah I did go and leave that up there

2096
01:12:35,330 --> 01:12:33,600
for a second video I'll get to that yeah

2097
01:12:35,990 --> 01:12:35,340
so I don't forget

2098
01:12:38,390 --> 01:12:36,000
um

2099
01:12:40,430 --> 01:12:38,400
I went to the Clearwater headquarters

2100
01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:40,440
which is a massive headquarters for

2101
01:12:44,450 --> 01:12:42,000
Scientology and I wanted to get a tour

2102
01:12:45,830 --> 01:12:44,460
but they were too busy very very weird

2103
01:12:47,270 --> 01:12:45,840
they all dressed in the same outfit

2104
01:12:49,070 --> 01:12:47,280
coming off a bus it looked really

2105
01:12:51,050 --> 01:12:49,080
robotic

2106
01:12:53,030 --> 01:12:51,060
um yeah whether or not they have any

2107
01:12:54,350 --> 01:12:53,040
part of the truth I don't even know

2108
01:12:56,689 --> 01:12:54,360
um did they talk about people being

2109
01:12:58,070 --> 01:12:56,699
dumped here dumped here like from other

2110
01:13:01,070 --> 01:12:58,080
planets

2111
01:13:02,510 --> 01:13:01,080
the background I'm not too sure when but

2112
01:13:04,729 --> 01:13:02,520
I've looked into it briefly in the past

2113
01:13:07,310 --> 01:13:04,739
that as soon as it got into that

2114
01:13:10,729 --> 01:13:07,320
alien thing I I kind of Switched Off

2115
01:13:12,169 --> 01:13:10,739
after a while yeah here's one thing in

2116
01:13:14,209 --> 01:13:12,179
life science I've shared this article

2117
01:13:16,790 --> 01:13:14,219
before they talk about the apocalypse of

2118
01:13:18,709 --> 01:13:16,800
James so it's an extra biblical book

2119
01:13:22,610 --> 01:13:18,719
that did not get into the Bible and it

2120
01:13:25,430 --> 01:13:22,620
looks as Jesus as a teacher and it says

2121
01:13:27,410 --> 01:13:25,440
that Jesus Jesus told James that

2122
01:13:29,330 --> 01:13:27,420
basically and this is the writer saying

2123
01:13:31,610 --> 01:13:29,340
this but basically we're living on a

2124
01:13:33,709 --> 01:13:31,620
prison planet and it's like the Matrix

2125
01:13:35,750 --> 01:13:33,719
and when you die you're gonna face these

2126
01:13:38,390 --> 01:13:35,760
archons and to get to the actual real

2127
01:13:39,770 --> 01:13:38,400
afterlife you need to have the passwords

2128
01:13:41,689 --> 01:13:39,780
um unfortunately somebody else has

2129
01:13:43,910 --> 01:13:41,699
co-opted the prison planet term Alex

2130
01:13:45,229 --> 01:13:43,920
Jones which really sucks because then

2131
01:13:47,390 --> 01:13:45,239
you mentioned prison planet and they

2132
01:13:49,850 --> 01:13:47,400
connect you with him but this was you

2133
01:13:51,770 --> 01:13:49,860
know the nagamadi the gnostics um

2134
01:13:53,149 --> 01:13:51,780
talking about this and I'm like do I

2135
01:13:55,310 --> 01:13:53,159
really think there are passwords you're

2136
01:13:56,630 --> 01:13:55,320
supposed to know like do you get to the

2137
01:13:57,950 --> 01:13:56,640
archons and you have to give the

2138
01:13:59,930 --> 01:13:57,960
password and if you get it wrong you get

2139
01:14:01,790 --> 01:13:59,940
sent back down or if you put in the

2140
01:14:05,209 --> 01:14:01,800
wrong password or you barred from trying

2141
01:14:06,590 --> 01:14:05,219
again for three weeks and there are

2142
01:14:08,330 --> 01:14:06,600
people on Reddit who are like does

2143
01:14:10,430 --> 01:14:08,340
anybody have the passwords if you type

2144
01:14:12,290 --> 01:14:10,440
it in gnostics passwords archons people

2145
01:14:14,090 --> 01:14:12,300
are asking for the passwords I don't

2146
01:14:16,010 --> 01:14:14,100
think there are actual passwords maybe

2147
01:14:17,810 --> 01:14:16,020
it's something you need to realize that

2148
01:14:19,610 --> 01:14:17,820
you're a powerful spiritual being and

2149
01:14:21,470 --> 01:14:19,620
these archons have no control if that's

2150
01:14:25,370 --> 01:14:21,480
even a literal thing

2151
01:14:27,290 --> 01:14:25,380
um just remember who you are so

2152
01:14:28,250 --> 01:14:27,300
Havana syndrome

2153
01:14:31,010 --> 01:14:28,260
um

2154
01:14:33,410 --> 01:14:31,020
I'll just say this and

2155
01:14:35,870 --> 01:14:33,420
Whoever has that technology is able to

2156
01:14:38,390 --> 01:14:35,880
avoid detection so whoever has that

2157
01:14:40,550 --> 01:14:38,400
technology has some really Advanced

2158
01:14:42,530 --> 01:14:40,560
capabilities and for the United States

2159
01:14:44,030 --> 01:14:42,540
government to say I mean they've thrown

2160
01:14:46,370 --> 01:14:44,040
it out there like oh a lot of this is

2161
01:14:48,649 --> 01:14:46,380
just in their head or it's some sort of

2162
01:14:49,729 --> 01:14:48,659
basic prosaic technology that they're

2163
01:14:51,770 --> 01:14:49,739
mistaking

2164
01:14:54,169 --> 01:14:51,780
the government also is paying people now

2165
01:14:55,610 --> 01:14:54,179
who were affected by it so obviously

2166
01:14:57,470 --> 01:14:55,620
it's real and there's a hardcore group

2167
01:14:59,330 --> 01:14:57,480
of people CNN just did an hour special

2168
01:15:01,310 --> 01:14:59,340
on it 60 Minutes to the special it's

2169
01:15:03,410 --> 01:15:01,320
ruined their life I mean it's really

2170
01:15:04,729 --> 01:15:03,420
affected them neurologically it's a real

2171
01:15:05,570 --> 01:15:04,739
thing

2172
01:15:07,729 --> 01:15:05,580
um

2173
01:15:10,130 --> 01:15:07,739
is that here's my opinion here's my

2174
01:15:11,209 --> 01:15:10,140
speculation is that some sort of human

2175
01:15:14,390 --> 01:15:11,219
group

2176
01:15:16,790 --> 01:15:14,400
saying this is what we can do

2177
01:15:18,770 --> 01:15:16,800
and if you don't do what we say we can

2178
01:15:21,050 --> 01:15:18,780
keep doing this because you can't catch

2179
01:15:22,669 --> 01:15:21,060
us you're not going to catch us

2180
01:15:25,370 --> 01:15:22,679
um Gary Nolan said

2181
01:15:27,950 --> 01:15:25,380
that and it was in his vice interview

2182
01:15:30,229 --> 01:15:27,960
Vice magazine uh he said that he thinks

2183
01:15:32,149 --> 01:15:30,239
that at least one injury Thomas

2184
01:15:34,010 --> 01:15:32,159
Winterton who and Gary didn't say Thomas

2185
01:15:35,750 --> 01:15:34,020
Winterton but Winterton later on he's

2186
01:15:37,850 --> 01:15:35,760
the superintendent at Skinwalker Ranch

2187
01:15:40,550 --> 01:15:37,860
yeah he's later on said yeah that's my

2188
01:15:42,169 --> 01:15:40,560
case Nolan said he thought that involved

2189
01:15:44,630 --> 01:15:42,179
a state actor

2190
01:15:46,310 --> 01:15:44,640
putting that that would hurt him and

2191
01:15:48,770 --> 01:15:46,320
Brandon fugle immediately said I don't

2192
01:15:50,930 --> 01:15:48,780
agree Winterton said I don't agree at

2193
01:15:52,189 --> 01:15:50,940
the time I was like but now I'm like I

2194
01:15:54,229 --> 01:15:52,199
think he's right I don't think State

2195
01:15:55,669 --> 01:15:54,239
actor though I think non-state actor I

2196
01:15:58,310 --> 01:15:55,679
don't think it's a foreign country that

2197
01:16:01,370 --> 01:15:58,320
has so much although

2198
01:16:03,709 --> 01:16:01,380
I mean with Havana

2199
01:16:06,050 --> 01:16:03,719
we know where it's taking place

2200
01:16:08,149 --> 01:16:06,060
and I'm not sure if we have see that's

2201
01:16:10,250 --> 01:16:08,159
the thing maybe maybe it can be detected

2202
01:16:11,990 --> 01:16:10,260
if you know the attack is coming this is

2203
01:16:14,689 --> 01:16:12,000
coming out of the blue just like at

2204
01:16:16,729 --> 01:16:14,699
Skinwalker maybe there is some sort of

2205
01:16:19,250 --> 01:16:16,739
human presence that's here's another

2206
01:16:20,630 --> 01:16:19,260
theory human presence if there is a

2207
01:16:22,490 --> 01:16:20,640
technology if there is a group out there

2208
01:16:24,050 --> 01:16:22,500
that interacts with interdimensionals

2209
01:16:26,330 --> 01:16:24,060
where would you want and maybe that

2210
01:16:28,070 --> 01:16:26,340
group has advanced technology where

2211
01:16:29,450 --> 01:16:28,080
would you hang out to have most access

2212
01:16:31,550 --> 01:16:29,460
to those interdimensionals you would

2213
01:16:34,370 --> 01:16:31,560
hang out at a place like Skinwalker or

2214
01:16:35,870 --> 01:16:34,380
they'll say New Mexico or Sedona or

2215
01:16:37,910 --> 01:16:35,880
there are other places around the globe

2216
01:16:40,610 --> 01:16:37,920
Yakima Washington

2217
01:16:41,930 --> 01:16:40,620
um maybe that's and maybe they're I

2218
01:16:43,970 --> 01:16:41,940
don't know if they're able to stay

2219
01:16:46,430 --> 01:16:43,980
stealth but there are there are reports

2220
01:16:48,890 --> 01:16:46,440
on Skinwalker that always made me think

2221
01:16:50,570 --> 01:16:48,900
you know you hear there are Footsteps in

2222
01:16:53,270 --> 01:16:50,580
one of the trailers during the mid ears

2223
01:16:55,310 --> 01:16:53,280
just like foot human footsteps was that

2224
01:16:57,709 --> 01:16:55,320
some human technology that made them

2225
01:16:59,570 --> 01:16:57,719
invisible or was it just poltergeistlect

2226
01:17:02,330 --> 01:16:59,580
activity I'm more open to the human

2227
01:17:04,130 --> 01:17:02,340
technology angle but I totally I mean

2228
01:17:06,050 --> 01:17:04,140
Skinwalker stuff goes back hundreds of

2229
01:17:08,450 --> 01:17:06,060
years that's not human so I think it's a

2230
01:17:11,090 --> 01:17:08,460
mix that's going on there

2231
01:17:12,530 --> 01:17:11,100
um so yeah Havana is a massive problem

2232
01:17:14,270 --> 01:17:12,540
that's not talked about in this

2233
01:17:15,709 --> 01:17:14,280
community at all and I think it should

2234
01:17:18,410 --> 01:17:15,719
be Lou has said there's a connection

2235
01:17:20,689 --> 01:17:18,420
between uaps and Havana he won't say

2236
01:17:22,370 --> 01:17:20,699
what I think they got their technology

2237
01:17:25,310 --> 01:17:22,380
from UFO

2238
01:17:26,990 --> 01:17:25,320
Tech and turn that into Havana

2239
01:17:29,330 --> 01:17:27,000
um and also slide nine I'm starting to

2240
01:17:30,830 --> 01:17:29,340
wonder is slide nine an enemy of the

2241
01:17:34,189 --> 01:17:30,840
United States that engages in

2242
01:17:37,370 --> 01:17:34,199
psychotronic weapons and pre you know in

2243
01:17:40,550 --> 01:17:37,380
they can cognitively interface with us

2244
01:17:42,110 --> 01:17:40,560
and affect decision makers is that

2245
01:17:43,910 --> 01:17:42,120
non-human or is that human are they

2246
01:17:46,550 --> 01:17:43,920
talking about this human group that's

2247
01:17:48,290 --> 01:17:46,560
involved with Havana you know that's a

2248
01:17:49,370 --> 01:17:48,300
recent theory that pops into my head I

2249
01:17:51,790 --> 01:17:49,380
don't know I don't know if they're not

2250
01:17:54,290 --> 01:17:51,800
if they're talking about humans

2251
01:17:56,209 --> 01:17:54,300
non-governmental group or

2252
01:17:57,830 --> 01:17:56,219
non-human intelligence as far as Collins

2253
01:17:58,550 --> 01:17:57,840
Elite

2254
01:17:59,990 --> 01:17:58,560
um

2255
01:18:01,790 --> 01:18:00,000
they don't think we should study this

2256
01:18:04,010 --> 01:18:01,800
because they think it's demonic I

2257
01:18:05,930 --> 01:18:04,020
understand after what I just said you

2258
01:18:07,610 --> 01:18:05,940
know that these beings come across as

2259
01:18:10,030 --> 01:18:07,620
demonic I don't think that's the case

2260
01:18:14,090 --> 01:18:10,040
and and I debate it with somebody online

2261
01:18:16,130 --> 01:18:14,100
on Twitter and they're like listen if

2262
01:18:19,330 --> 01:18:16,140
if some of the worst things that happen

2263
01:18:22,130 --> 01:18:19,340
on this planet are egged on by humans

2264
01:18:23,689 --> 01:18:22,140
just to placate these interdimensionals

2265
01:18:25,370 --> 01:18:23,699
and that's all evil I'm like you're

2266
01:18:27,890 --> 01:18:25,380
right from a human standpoint that is

2267
01:18:30,950 --> 01:18:27,900
100 evil we're talking about rape and

2268
01:18:32,870 --> 01:18:30,960
incestors and and and pedophilia all

2269
01:18:35,450 --> 01:18:32,880
that worse stuff if that's going on

2270
01:18:37,910 --> 01:18:35,460
putting out that negative food

2271
01:18:40,010 --> 01:18:37,920
that's horrible and evil but from a

2272
01:18:41,810 --> 01:18:40,020
non-human standpoint that survives off

2273
01:18:44,270 --> 01:18:41,820
that stuff they might not see it like

2274
01:18:46,090 --> 01:18:44,280
that and Lou says you need to stop

2275
01:18:49,370 --> 01:18:46,100
looking at this from a human Viewpoint

2276
01:18:51,229 --> 01:18:49,380
it's part of the natural world so if

2277
01:18:53,270 --> 01:18:51,239
that's going on okay but if we have

2278
01:18:55,610 --> 01:18:53,280
humans that are adding to that and and

2279
01:18:59,149 --> 01:18:55,620
and doing the bidding in their minds of

2280
01:19:01,430 --> 01:18:59,159
these non-humans that's really really

2281
01:19:03,229 --> 01:19:01,440
messed up um and that's basically David

2282
01:19:04,970 --> 01:19:03,239
Ike and other people it's not just Ike

2283
01:19:06,410 --> 01:19:04,980
although Ike talks about it the most and

2284
01:19:08,450 --> 01:19:06,420
I know it's controversial and I know

2285
01:19:09,649 --> 01:19:08,460
people think it's crazy

2286
01:19:11,149 --> 01:19:09,659
um but if you put all the pieces

2287
01:19:12,950 --> 01:19:11,159
together it's like certain things start

2288
01:19:15,350 --> 01:19:12,960
clicking you're like

2289
01:19:16,669 --> 01:19:15,360
and Peter levanda and Tom Delong in the

2290
01:19:18,350 --> 01:19:16,679
last book they put out to like certain

2291
01:19:20,810 --> 01:19:18,360
things on this planet do not make sense

2292
01:19:22,130 --> 01:19:20,820
something feels off I think a lot of

2293
01:19:23,750 --> 01:19:22,140
people have thought that this does not

2294
01:19:26,630 --> 01:19:23,760
seem right there are people starving on

2295
01:19:28,910 --> 01:19:26,640
this planet we have billionaires yeah it

2296
01:19:31,790 --> 01:19:28,920
just doesn't make any sense to me no

2297
01:19:34,729 --> 01:19:31,800
completely I completely agree well uh

2298
01:19:35,990 --> 01:19:34,739
Joe thank you so much for this amazing

2299
01:19:37,850 --> 01:19:36,000
conversation

2300
01:19:39,649 --> 01:19:37,860
um for anybody that may be watching or

2301
01:19:41,990 --> 01:19:39,659
listening now or in the future if you

2302
01:19:43,850 --> 01:19:42,000
don't follow Joe all of his links are in

2303
01:19:45,890 --> 01:19:43,860
the description below you follow me on

2304
01:19:47,570 --> 01:19:45,900
Twitter he's got his own blog site and

2305
01:19:50,270 --> 01:19:47,580
and other things as well please please

2306
01:19:52,490 --> 01:19:50,280
please go and follow Joe

2307
01:19:54,770 --> 01:19:52,500
um yeah you won't be disappointed the

2308
01:19:57,050 --> 01:19:54,780
the work he puts in on Twitter is is

2309
01:19:58,729 --> 01:19:57,060
second to none uh it's it's always

2310
01:20:00,169 --> 01:19:58,739
highly appreciated and I know a lot of

2311
01:20:03,229 --> 01:20:00,179
people go that way for for their

2312
01:20:05,030 --> 01:20:03,239
information so Joe thank you so much

2313
01:20:07,370 --> 01:20:05,040
um to everyone in the chat thank you

2314
01:20:09,229 --> 01:20:07,380
again as always for for keeping it nice

2315
01:20:11,149 --> 01:20:09,239
cool calm and collected I really

2316
01:20:12,770 --> 01:20:11,159
appreciate it everybody listening on the

2317
01:20:15,890 --> 01:20:12,780
Anonymous podcast Network in the future

2318
01:20:17,209 --> 01:20:15,900
thank you for tuning in I will be I

2319
01:20:19,070 --> 01:20:17,219
think I'm having next week off I'm gonna

2320
01:20:21,350 --> 01:20:19,080
have a little vacation

2321
01:20:23,570 --> 01:20:21,360
um I might release something if it's

2322
01:20:25,370 --> 01:20:23,580
edited by then maybe not if not I'll see

2323
01:20:27,590 --> 01:20:25,380
you the week after but guys thank you

2324
01:20:28,370 --> 01:20:27,600
once again and we'll see you soon take